3C frame questions

Gerald

Gerald

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I aquired 1001*2542*, matching frame and engine#, first registered May '75 in Germany.
The frame has the brake cable stay and brake light tang on the left, but also on the right side??
Engine has no provisions for the crossover gear lever linkage. Is this possibly a replacement frame? *2542* is stamped on the headstock and the triangular swingarm/footrest plate on the left.  Also this is the second frame with a steering damper bracket I've come across. Did the factory fit these on request?

Gerald
 

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I didn't think early bikes like that had stamped headstocks, only on the left swingarm pivot plate.
So that is odd too.
Maybe the early ones had left and right cable stays.
I think that steering damper weld is not factory original.
 
Stamping on the LH side of the headstock was mandatory in Germany at the time.  Many Laverdas, but definitely not all, delivered to other markets had it as well.

Never seen a steering damper bracket welded to the frame, certainly not stock imho.  Laverdas generally don't need one anyway!

Cross-over gear linkage mounts are on the engine only.  Reckon it must be an early frame that made provisions for the US market regulations.  '74 frames did not yet have the additional bracketry, my #2015 was first registered in Germany February 1974.

If all stamping matches, probably not a replacement, quite difficult to replicate the factory stampings accurately. 

piet
 
Bloody chunky steering damper bracket, you could mount a sidecar off that. Rear mount looks like it could mount a sidecar.

..................  ??? ever thought it could have been fitted with a sidecar?
 
sfcpiet said:
If all stamping matches, probably not a replacement, quite difficult to replicate the factory stampings accurately. 
piet
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now there is an understatement, have a customer who has been trying to get stamps made with the correct font and size for months
and that damn star pattern, that took some finding but finally figured out it was the same as a Ducati star and Bevelman just happened to know where there were some for sale
in Canberra of all places

 
redax5 said:
now there is an understatement, have a customer who has been trying to get stamps made with the correct font and size for months
and that damn star pattern, that took some finding but finally figured out it was the same as a Ducati star and Bevelman just happened to know where there were some for sale
in Canberra of all places
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Red,

The stars are already stamped in replacement frames, just need to add the actual number.  Still, not easy to get it right!  Need a big fucker of a hammer, along with a shit load of self-confidence.  Done a few, but never looked quite right.  Good enough for the authorities though. :D

Stamping was mandatory on the RH side of the headstock in Germany, not LH as I claimed earlier... ::) 

piet
 
Gerald, the frame looks very similar to mine, 1651, including missing bracketry at connection between upper tube and rear frame. Mine was first registered in Italy early 74, it has neither the headstock punched nor the extra lug for RH brake lever. I vaguely remember of having seen a dodgy crossover linkage on a 3C picture somewhere in the interwebs that was not like the later engine mounted ones. Might have been DIY, though.

Can't remember to have that lower secondary horizontal plate between the downtubes on my bike, something to do with the oil cooler added on later models? Or also DPO Inc., like the lug for the steering damper??
 
mauricejota7604 said:
Yes that lower horizontal plate on the front of the frame is for the oil cooler.
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??? Why would anyone fit a steering damper to the R/H side of the bike. Means you've got to back off to adjust the damper, just when the going gets good.
 
The known history of the bike goes back to 1981 when the previous owner bought the bike from the first owner. No sidecar mounting since first registration 1975, the German title book has an entry prohibiting use with a side car. Engine has an oil cooler, so the horizontal bar was probably there all along. Here's the headstock stamping.

 

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Did you know that the /1 after LAV1000 represents a disc brake front end?
Talk about strange things with Laverda frames I have a 3C frame that has the recess formed in the rear mudguard support tube for where the pin for a hinged seat would go maybe they started to prepare some frames for the next generation 3CLs?
 
mauricejota7604 said:
Did you know that the /1 after LAV1000 represents a disc brake front end?
Talk about strange things with Laverda frames I have a 3C frame that has the recess formed in the rear mudguard support tube for where the pin for a hinged seat would go maybe they started to prepare some frames for the next generation 3CLs?
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OCT has several of that type in stock.

Apparently the top rear frame tube got the dimple from a certain stage in production, irrespective of which type it finally became.

piet
 
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