Laverdalothar
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might not bother you, but the German T?V wants to see it working, at least if you try to pass their tests to re-register a bike...
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Piet, first thing tomorrow (6am will do) get onto it will you. An act of defiance like having a non operational steering lock could undermine the state. Do your duty. 
Actually this sort of thing reminds me of all the brainless twaddle I have read on Anglo-French forums about what will happen to you for not obeying the misinterpreted and trivial rules. There are millions and millions of people living in Europe and all sorts of evil things are going on. A motorcycle steering lock must be way down the list of to do items for our glorious leaders, just as my little transgressions must be.
Fuck them anyway and burn the witch too ha ha!
Actually this sort of thing reminds me of all the brainless twaddle I have read on Anglo-French forums about what will happen to you for not obeying the misinterpreted and trivial rules. There are millions and millions of people living in Europe and all sorts of evil things are going on. A motorcycle steering lock must be way down the list of to do items for our glorious leaders, just as my little transgressions must be.
Fuck them anyway and burn the witch too ha ha!
Dellortoman
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Reminds me of a mate who's BMW R75/5 failed a roadworthy test because it didn't have a chain guard. The idiot tester was adamant that a the rules specified a chain guard, so it had to have one. This must have been in the early 70's when roadworthiness tests were first introduced, and whoever wrote the rule book didn't know there were such things as shaft drive bikes.
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Cam
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Cam
Laverdalothar
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Hi Piet,
as said, I only had it when I got bikes tested for re-registration after several years (and only at the T?V, never at DEKRA or the likes).
Pat: well - it is part of a long, long list to check for the man in blue, some check this, others check other things. For sure it is not the most important thing, but if it fails, it could potentially lock your front in one position while riding. And THAT's something they want to avoid for your better.
Even more, the bike has to have some kind of theft protection. Not that the steering lock is one really, but if the bike has none, you need to cary a chain-lock or similar with you according to german law. Else, if your bike gets stolen you get nothing back cause it was your fault not having locked the bike up.
Cam: If you think that is weird, I can assure you I have seen things in my life working for american companies since 16 year that would make you creep up the walls. The latest one was that our Price list has now product descriptions that are to long to enter them into our distributors ordering system, hence the Distributor shortened them, still understandable. Our order management refused the order because the product description did not match our price list. They wanted to force the Distributor to re-write his hole order management system because WE had extended the product description and caused the situation. We finally found a solution, but not a very comfortable one. Guess for whom it wasn't comfortable? right, for our customer...
Or: In April, I flew to the States with my wife. My Family name is "E?er" with the German letter "?", which is basically a double S. So - internationally, our name is written "Esser". In the travel passport, it was written as it should be "E?er", in the Tickets it was "Esser". Everything went well until we had to re-check in at Miami Airport. "Sir, the name in your passport does not match the ticket, get that fixed please" - "I know, but this is the German double S, which you don't have on your keyboard here. I can not get that fixed." - "Sir, I can not let you pass, your ticket does not match your passport. Please get that fixed!"
We had to return to the ticket desk, where they entered after some discussion a "B" instead of the "?" so the guy did let us pass... Conclusion: with the correct international spelling of my name, I could not get passed the security check. With a totally wrong name on my ticket it worked. Weird? I would say so...
as said, I only had it when I got bikes tested for re-registration after several years (and only at the T?V, never at DEKRA or the likes).
Pat: well - it is part of a long, long list to check for the man in blue, some check this, others check other things. For sure it is not the most important thing, but if it fails, it could potentially lock your front in one position while riding. And THAT's something they want to avoid for your better.
Even more, the bike has to have some kind of theft protection. Not that the steering lock is one really, but if the bike has none, you need to cary a chain-lock or similar with you according to german law. Else, if your bike gets stolen you get nothing back cause it was your fault not having locked the bike up.
Cam: If you think that is weird, I can assure you I have seen things in my life working for american companies since 16 year that would make you creep up the walls. The latest one was that our Price list has now product descriptions that are to long to enter them into our distributors ordering system, hence the Distributor shortened them, still understandable. Our order management refused the order because the product description did not match our price list. They wanted to force the Distributor to re-write his hole order management system because WE had extended the product description and caused the situation. We finally found a solution, but not a very comfortable one. Guess for whom it wasn't comfortable? right, for our customer...
Or: In April, I flew to the States with my wife. My Family name is "E?er" with the German letter "?", which is basically a double S. So - internationally, our name is written "Esser". In the travel passport, it was written as it should be "E?er", in the Tickets it was "Esser". Everything went well until we had to re-check in at Miami Airport. "Sir, the name in your passport does not match the ticket, get that fixed please" - "I know, but this is the German double S, which you don't have on your keyboard here. I can not get that fixed." - "Sir, I can not let you pass, your ticket does not match your passport. Please get that fixed!"
We had to return to the ticket desk, where they entered after some discussion a "B" instead of the "?" so the guy did let us pass... Conclusion: with the correct international spelling of my name, I could not get passed the security check. With a totally wrong name on my ticket it worked. Weird? I would say so...
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3patC
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The world is going mad Lothar, I've never even heard of a steering lock failing although I'm sure it's possible. Just about all the bikes I have ever owned came without a steering lock key. They're not worth a light anyway.
I just go with the flow when there's no choice as with your passport problem because they've got you by the balls for an instant but generally if I can pass below the radar I will.
The politicians and their flunkeys aren't fit to lick the average working persons boots so dont be too compliant. I despise the bastards.
I just go with the flow when there's no choice as with your passport problem because they've got you by the balls for an instant but generally if I can pass below the radar I will.
The politicians and their flunkeys aren't fit to lick the average working persons boots so dont be too compliant. I despise the bastards.
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sfcpiet said:Laverdalothar said:I don't think anyone assumed that. It is just 30 years ago and knowledge has improved on some things...
And now there's marques using ball bearings top and bottom! Works perfectly and is high on my to-do list.
piet
My Laverda 100 uses ball bearings top and bottom! Joking apart, the little Lav has a cup system which obviously handles the thrust loads transmitted up through the forks. How do the modern systems using two ball bearings cope with lateral thrust?
Dellortoman
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Cam's hit it on the head.
A spacer tube is fitted between the 2 bearings, a set-up found in almost every front and rear motorcycle wheel, excepting Harleys and Beemers, they have tapered rollers in their hubs (not so sure of "modern" Beemers, though)....
piet
A spacer tube is fitted between the 2 bearings, a set-up found in almost every front and rear motorcycle wheel, excepting Harleys and Beemers, they have tapered rollers in their hubs (not so sure of "modern" Beemers, though)....
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Reggie3cl
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You can. I had one in the 180- seemed like a good idae at the time, used an RGS dust cover over it.