best and brightest SILVER colour available??

Terry Dymond said:
Glad you picked up the reference Paul, anything by the Coen brothers has got to right up there with the best movies ever :D.
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love the movie. When deciding to stock pomade in my daughters store, I did look at pomade from an outfit in the UK that ripped off the brand name "Dapper Dan" in 2011, and I was thinking of stocking it here in western Canada    http://dapperdanuk.com/  They are in Shefiled, UK, not all that far from Manchester. I meant to stop in to see them when I was in Manchester last but was busy drinking with the Three Dellorto's in his local and got distracted........  :o :o ;)

Paul LeClair
 
back to the topic of spraying paint.....

two years ago I failed miserably at my first attempt in spraying water base automotive paint. I wound up having to strip everything and re spray with solvent based paint, which then resulted in great end result. However, it cost me a bunch of extra time, money, and frustration.

Being stubborn, for this current paint job I bought the highest quality water based paint I could find locally, deBeers 900+ series  http://www.de-beer.com/en/index.php , which is known for really vivid colours, especially a really brilliant metallic silver.

last week I went looking for the best local knowledge on working with this water based paint, and wound up chatting with the local deBeers technical representative. Nice guy, turns out he needs some legal work that I am well qualified to provide........ 8)

so, long story short, he is going to teach me to properly work with and spray water base automotive paint, after hours, in a professional downdraft booth at a local body shop he does work for........ I have had him check my bodywork preparation, he says I did a great job, with everything ready to spray as is, except for my final finishing on the previously crashed Jota fairing. I mentioned recently in this thread that the repairs on the Jota fairing have been "active", so the rejection of the Jota fairing for spraying is understandable. So, I have been sent back to my  garage to redo the final bodywork prep on the Jota fairing, including some more filler, a couple more coats of high build primer, and a lot more final sanding...... ::)

I have so much work into preparing this 1200 TS Mirage bodywork for paint I have been concerned about screwing up the spraying aspect of the work. This is going to be a great solution, having someone with me to teach me exactly what I need to do with the water based automotive paints, and a great skill to have acquired moving forward, especially when I go to paint my Triumph Spitfire car myself, probably next winter. Only problem now is getting the Jota fairing finished to the required standard, then working with the schedule of myself, my new friend, and the body shop to get a time that works for everyone in the next few weeks.

Paul LeClair

 
Result!
Does that mean you get a spray booth for free now?
Double result!  8)
 
Grant said:
Result!
Does that mean you get a spray booth for free now?
Double result!  8)
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Hi Grant

I figure I will wind up buying someone some alcohol for the use of the spray booth, well see.

I am hoping for a really good result with the professional instruction!

Paul LeClair
 
Hey PLC

Although not really a DIY process, have a Google around powder coat chrome as an alternative.

                                Cheers
                                      Matt   
 
did a bunch more work on the Jota fairing and a few other bodywork touch-ups on the various other bits. Everything is as good as I can get them as far as prep goes.

going to spray paint bright and early Sunday morning, March 29, 2015, in a pro downdraft booth, using water based paint and a quick set clear. Wish me luck! Photos to follow.

Paul LeClair
 
spraying water based paint is easy.....if done in a high flow pro side/downdraft paint booth. It sprays a bit differently than solvent based paint, and spraying a high metallic content paint is a bit tricky, but with the proper tools in a proper paint booth the water based works really really well. Bottom line, the water based paint "flashes" differently than solvent based, and you have to be absolutely SURE that the water has flashed off before going on to the next coat, which means you need a ton of high volume clean filtered air flow.

Looks like my last attempt at spraying water based automotive paint was done correctly so far as working with the materials, the correct gun and tip ( I used the same gun and same setup today as I did the last time at home), bottom line I did not have near enough air flow at home to "flash" the water off the solids, which I likely why my first attempt did not succeed.

I n a proper pro paint booth, the water based paint was a joy to work with. Seven weeks of bodywork prep paid off, the end result is pretty good if I do say so myself. The photos attached are fresh from bringing the parts home and putting them on my back deck in the sun. I have not yet wet sanded or polished, there are only a couple of tiny dust flecks, the nd result is so good I am thinking about just wet sanding the few less than perfect areas and leaving the rest alone. Was great to have pro instruction, proper spray pattern out of the gun, proper air line pressure at the gun, proper gun manipulation, etc. I wouldn't hesitate to do the next paint spray job without supervision!

I have the double stripes, in a really bright red, will probably stripe the parts with all the parts on the bike to make sure everything flows and lines up correctly.

anyone can do this, with some patience and some willingness to learn, and get a professional result.

Paul LeClair

 

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Paul, that is superb quality paint work!
The silver seems less bright than expected, but I think it's a good choice and will look stunning when fitted.  Looking forward to seeing the finished product, esp with the S2 fairing.

Tom
 
henrywillms said:
The paint is so nice it would be a shame to ride the bike, best put it on your trailer or in your living room.
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laughing out loud, Henry....

as is becoming usual, I sprayed a LOT of clear, any eventual scratches or dings should wet sand and polish right out no problems.

the black motorcycle paint job I did in 1999 has been wet sanded and re-polished every second or third year, still looks more or less like new 8)

Paul LeClair
 
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