Brake Lines Need Banjos?

[Rockitdoc]

The brake lines for my RGS1000SFC won't cooperate.  The end at the manifold is not a banjo,

so the line cannot be positioned in a way that allows it to fit the banjo at the caliper.

Anybody else had this issue?

Should I change the end at the manifold to a banjo, or just pile on washers until it is turned the correct direction (which seems clunky, at best)?

 

[2622]

No dont pack them out with washers it is brakes we are talking here. Turn thee hoses around you have them routed the wrong way

 

[MotoMark]

You could get some new ones made with a 90 degree bend at the caliper end. I didn't see where you were located but here in the US I've had good luck with Spiegler (http://www.spieglerusa.com)

 

[sfcpiet]

The banjo can usually be twisted/turned in the hose crimping, standard procedure to get things lined up... at least with quality items.  These are normally supplied with a special plastic clamping tool to hold the hose while the banjo is turned with either a tight fitting bar through the bore or a spanner, again, well-fitting, on the sealing surfaces.

No offence meant, but it seems you are extremely inexperienced when it comes to motorcycle mechanics!

piet

 

[Rockitdoc]

The banjo can usually be twisted/turned in the hose crimping, standard procedure to get things lined up... at least with quality items.  These are normally supplied with a special plastic clamping tool to hold the hose while the banjo is turned with either a tight fitting bar through the bore or a spanner, again, well-fitting, on the sealing surfaces.

No offence meant, but it seems you are extremely inexperienced when it comes to motorcycle mechanics!

piet

None taken.  I understand the banjo can be turned.  That's the idea of a banjo. It allows turning a semi-rigid hose in any direction.  The problem here is that one end (the manifold end) is not a banjo.  When the manifold end is tightened against the manifold, the hose ends up pointing the wrong direction (see my photo above).  These hoses are the ones supplied by Wolfgang.  Fischer-Stahlflex.  Should be the correct hoses, but the one on the right works while the one on the left ends up turned 90 degrees to where it should be to fit the caliper.

 

[sfcpiet]

You need to turn/twist the banjo IN the hose, ie, hold the hose at the crimped collar and try to turn the banjo fitting inside the hose. Gets everything lined up and the job is done in about 15 seconds flat.  Will look much like the routing of your original rubber hose.  The rest of the hose will follow the bend forced upon it by the fixed ends nicely and all will be good...

piet

 

[Rockitdoc]

You need to turn/twist the banjo IN the hose, ie, hold the hose at the crimped collar and try to turn the banjo fitting inside the hose. Gets everything lined up and the job is done in about 15 seconds flat.  Will look much like the routing of your original rubber hose.  The rest of the hose will follow the bend forced upon it by the fixed ends nicely and all will be good...

piet

Yeah, I found that out.  I figured it had to be able turn in the fitting or it couldn't work.  Very tight to turn, but it does.  I didn't know it turned, so I didn't want to force things.  Bad things tend to happen, then.  I have some experience in that area.  The hoses I am familiar with rotate relatively freely and no tools are required besides the bare hands.  New experience, this.  Onward.....into the fog.

 

[Paul Marx]

Well, you could fit the hoses the other way round, ie with the straight end in the caliper. Otherwise it looks like the hose is suited to a caliper in front of the fork leg.
Paul

 

[veravista]

I thought they were easier to fit this way..

 

[Rockitdoc]

I thought they were easier to fit this way..

Probably, but then I wouldn't be able to use the cool little holders that fit into the fender to secure the lines.

 

[beauchemin]

I thought they were easier to fit this way..

Is that a hose clamp bolted to the fender?

 

[veravista]

Yes, they're bolted through.  They are actually aerospace grade titanium P clips with carbon impregnated teflon 'rubbers' that I, ahem, found when I worked at Rolls Royce aerospace.  Probably quite cheap..

 

[Rockitdoc]

Yes, they're bolted through.  They are actually aerospace grade titanium P clips with carbon impregnated teflon 'rubbers' that I, ahem, found when I worked at Rolls Royce aerospace.  Probably quite cheap..

You can get them at NAPA auto parts stores anywhere, now.