Ceriani triple clamps

I don't know whether this will help clarify, or just add the the confusion  ::)

I have a set of forks that came with Marzocchi stantions and what look like Ceriani yokes. The yokes have a mark underneath, like a pair of "F's with one upside down. Not seen any identifiers on either my '74 35mm 3C forks or the 38mm '77 Jota forks.  Pictures below:

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Pete
 
Dellortoman said:
I reckon it's one that belonged to Padlock. The FF stands for fuckity fuck.
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Nice one  :D


Checked the Cerianis again tonight and no markings on either of them.  Waiting for Grant's photos to see if they shed any light.

BTW - the FF mark is only on the top yoke.

Pete
 
'78 1200 Clyde's top yoke
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turned down the old hex stanchion caps so ya can push the assembled forks down through the yokes.
& gives more room for the flat and straight bars, as per Piet's earlier comments.
 
mauricejota7604 said:
Hey Pete my top triple has the same mark and is nothing like yours Mark although good idea to turn the edge off those nuts!!!
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Hi Maurice,  Something seems a bit odd here - can't help thinking there might be something other than Ceriani or Marzocchi yokes around. Stem is original and correct length. Same with fork legs.

The yokes in the photo above have the same sleeve nut as the Cerianis, but it is chromed steel....Confused?  Well I am  :D

Maybe Laverda got someone to make some yokes when Ceriani stopped supply?

Pete
 
Top yoke from my 1976 3CL, bike as bought new, Ceriani forks. Same marking as Pete. Maurice, I think he means the nut was chromed steel, the yokes are certainly polished alloy. Didn't Laverda own the Flam casting factory by this time?





 

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Looking at that mark again, the two F's are superimposed to form an "S", so it's FFS (for fucks sake!). Somebody myst have got sick of making triple clamps and expressed his frustration by putting in that mark.
 
Davo said:
Top yoke from my 1976 3CL, bike as bought new, Ceriani forks. Same marking as Pete. Maurice, I think he means the nut was chromed steel, the yokes are certainly polished alloy. Didn't Laverda own the Flam casting factory by this time?
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Nice one Davo - that's the same yoke  (thumbup) and the theory about the mark being Flam could be a good one.

Maurice - as Davo says: it's the nut that is chromed steel  ;)

Looking at that mark again, the two F's are superimposed to form an "S", so it's FFS (for fucks sake!). Somebody myst have got sick of making triple clamps and expressed his frustration by putting in that mark.
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Dellortoman - you've got too much time on your hands  :-*

Pete
 
And as can be seen from the marks on the top of the yoke, there was definitely no washer under the top nut.
 
Dellortoman said:
Looking at that mark again, the two F's are superimposed to form an "S", so it's FFS (for fucks sake!). Somebody myst have got sick of making triple clamps and expressed his frustration by putting in that mark.
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Had to laugh at that.

Here's some more trivia.
Marzocchi triple clamps have the crown stem tightening bolt (centre one) on the left (looking forward) and Ceriani, on the right. The Marzo clamps are identical between Ducati and later Laverda apart from using different stems. The Laverda one is shorter and one is 26mm and the other 25mm. Or is it the other way round??? I modified a set of Ducati ones for my bike.

There are other versions of both though. I have a set of Marzocchi clamps that look identical to what came standard on Ducati round case GT's but these use an internal stem thread cap like the one on Clyde's top yoke. Very unusual because most Ducati's use a shiny crown nut and use a damper rod and top adjuster. I've got no idea what these came off and I'm going to shave the clamps off.   

I've only come across three types of Cerianis, the ones on SFCs - flat with bugger all forward offset -  the ones on 3CL's - with the curved top clamp and use the shorter stanchions (Poff's ones)- and the 1200 ones, which look like flat Marzocchi and, from memory, have a 45mm offset.

My bike came with Ceriani clamps and Marzocchi legs, so anything can work. 


 
Some of the 1878 Gold coloured Jotas had the flat ceriani yokes - perhaps the factory used these up on the 1st Marzo forked triples - although I think Piet's suggestion that a mix and match may be an aftermarket event is most likely - regards 
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  Sorry for confusion Piet & Ken- i meant 1778 :D :D
 
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