lAVERDA sf3 Rear indicators Fixing Position

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David

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Hi People,
Please, has anyone a Factory picture side and rear end view of a genuine 1977 Cast wheeled SF3 (frame stamped SF3) I need to know the correct position of the rear indicators is or are they fitted to the rear light brackets or mounted just foreward of the start of the hump of the seat? VIA FRAME/MUD-Guard.
Thanks for looking.
 
This may help, I believe mounting is similar to NA spec 3CL:
https://www.laverda-paradies.de/shop-1000-61-en.html
 
The pic doesn?t show it clearly but any search on the web shows the mounting of the full width bracket on the forward side of the number plate support, within the tail light bracket (sort of). Was the same on many Lav models.
 
My 3CL has the indicators mounted on the grab rail. Dunno whether that's original though.

My Bro's 3C has that mounting bar across the number plate bracket. It's a flimsy thing though. I've welded it up several times. It gets fatigue cracks at the weak spots where the mounting holes are drilled through the tube to attach it to the number plate bracket.
 
Due to differing national regulations, the indicators can be mounted in different positions.  The regulations in Germany for example, stipulated a minimum distance between the outer edge of the rear light and the inner edge of the indicator, leading to absurdly long indicator stems on bikes with large/wide rear lights (especially 80s and 90s japs).  German market Lavs usually had the flimsy bar attached to the licence plate mount, also because the indicators needed to be visible from BOTH sides of the bike at a certain angle.  Many CEV light/plate brackets have holes in the side of the light mount to take indicator stems, US market maybe?  Others had them on the grab rails... not so sure there is a hard and fast answer to the positioning of SF3 indicators.

Thankfully, mainly because of the EU ( :D!), many of these silly regulations have been dropped here and have been brought in line with those of other EU countries.  But the T?V inspectors will still differentiate between a bike originally registered under german rules and one under the later EU compliancy rules, even if it is the same model!  Going to take a while until that novelty wears off. ::)

piet
 
We had the same reg in Oz till very recently,300mm or a foot to some.It was one of the cop specials if you didnt pass the attitude test. There are now a few modern bikes with the blinkers built in and way closer together at the rear. I cut a large section out of my rear bar, got sick of kicking the blinker when swinging a leg over. Much more sensible now and still easily seen.
 
Just leave the ugly fucking things off ............... hate them to death on classic motorbikes.
If Police are around: Right arm out means turn right, left arm out means turning left...... middle finger up means up yours arsewipe ............ it's not rocket science.
 
chrisk said:
Just leave the ugly fucking things off ............... hate them to death on classic motorbikes.
If Police are around: Right arm out means turn right, left arm out means turning left...... middle finger up means up yours arsewipe ............ it's not rocket science.
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Not that easy in some parts of the world Chris.

No indicators means no registration here.  And having to present the bike for inspection once you're nicked because you've removed them is a right pain in the arse, not to mention the costs.

Indicators are mandatory for bikes registered in Germany after 1961.  Riding without can carry a fine and means you are riding without insurance cover, can get very expensive should things go wrong.

I don't like them either, but, wtf...

piet
 
For the interest of it,  I chanced recently to be talking about old Italiam motorbikes with a bloke  who, way back when we were both youngsters, worked for a Sydney Ducati distributor, assembling the bikes coming out of their crates. He urged me to leave the indicators off. Said they used to bin the damn things because they spoiled the lean aggressive look of the bikes and, anyway, Ducati-ists hated them.
Cheers
Chris
 
The dilemma of blinkers. Sitting in the middle of the road waiting to turn off with distracted car drivers zooming by at close quarters, a flashing light to get their attention or not. I go with the flashing light myself.
 
sfcpiet said:
Indicators are mandatory for bikes registered in Germany after 1961.  Riding without can carry a fine and means you are riding without insurance cover, can get very expensive should things go wrong.

piet
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I guess the Triumph Hurricane ('72 version) would be pretty rare there then?
 
The Hurricane is indeed a rare bird here.  Fitting indicators was up to the importer/dealer if the originals came without.  There was no (legal) way getting around them.  I guess this gave rise to the popularity of the Hella bar-end indicators in Germany because of the minimal wiring required, just about all imported machines were fitted with them back then, if they weren't equipped with something else, ex-factory.

I remember a caption commenting these in Classic Bike a few years back, where a german reader presented his cafe'd SR500 fitted with the Hellas... " don't they (the germans) ever fall off?", as they are the first to be wiped out once you hit the deck.

piet
 
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