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Dellortoman

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Can anyone identify these bits (photos below). They were with the RGS project I bought.

There's an ignition system in a red box with a rotary switch (presumably to select between pre-programmeed curves). It has a 25-pin printer-type connector (parallel port?), but no label or markings on it. Apologies for the blurry photo. Auto-focus camera seems to have focussed on the dog.

Also, there's an odd-looking clip that has some bayonet-type hooks. Is that an RGS part?

Thanks
Cam
 

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Hey Cam

+1 for first pic, an IIs ignition ECU as fitted to my bike.

No idea for the spring.

                Cheers
                        Matt 
 
Thanks, I was wondering if it was an IIS.

Here's another puzzle:

How the fuck do you get the sidestand spring off? There's no room to wangle the fixed end out of its retaining hole.  It looks like you have to straighten out the hook on the end to pull it out through the hole.  That's OK if you don't mind destroying the spring, but what about installing a new one?

I don't need a sidestand for track use, so I could just remove the whole bloody thing with an angle grinder. But I might want to convert back to a roadbike at some stage so would prefer to leave it intact.

Cam
 

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no idea on either spring

that is an IIS box, do you have the trigger plate and wiring harness?

you will be using an Ignitech/Sachse combination on the track bike wouldn't you ?
If so, send me the IIS box and any other IIS parts you find and I'll test them and add them to the IIS spares drawer, may save someone's IIS system one day

got your e-mail, am in Budapest waiting on weather so will reply shortly

 
Taking of the sidestand spring takes a lot of force because there is almost no part where to grab it (I did it manipulating with a screwdriver) but when you mount it again watch out;

Mounting the spring again was for me a terrible job that take at least half an our and pain in my back after that.
It was absolute nessecerry (difficult word ;-) when I saw when laying on the ground that the sidestand was only holding the bike against only 1mm (one) of the welded strip of the frame, thus very dangerous!
The problem is that the spring situate itself (when mounting) very easily between the big washer and the sidestand itself so the sidestand sits not completely against the frame. I managed it with the help of another person to center the spring so it can?t manipulate itself wrong between the sidestand. Maybe there is another easy way but that?s the way I did it.

Ren?
 
The bayonet thing holds the headlamp bulb in, easiest way to to change the sidestand spring is to take the engine out. 8)


    Keith
 
laverdakeith said:
The bayonet thing holds the headlamp bulb in, easiest way to to change the sidestand spring is to take the engine out. 8)


    Keith
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At this point I would normally add "and fling the useless, crappy sidestand to the deepest depths of the shed" but Keith tells me that they're not usually as dreadful as mine was*. Next time I've got the engine out of the frame I'll check to see what is actually bent & get it straightened.

* flaming thing lent over so far on the sidestand that it would topple over at any excuse. You the had to grovel around underneath to flip the sidestand back up before you could lift the bike up
 
laverdakeith said:
The bayonet thing holds the headlamp bulb in
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OK, thanks. I can happily toss that away then.

redax5 said:
that is an IIS box, do you have the trigger plate and wiring harness?
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I haven't opened up the motor to have a look, but there's a bunch of wires hanging out with a matching plug on the end, so I assume all the works are in there.
I wasn't planning on replacing the ignition at this stage. No point spending money on something else if the IIS works OK.

Cam

 
Cam,
Try spot or centre weighted focus on the camera.

I fitted that spring to my Jota 120. It was like one of those christmas cracker puzzles with the two mis-shapen rings that need to be twisted a certain way to get apart/together. I suppose it took me 20 minutes to figure it out.

I have never understood the constant slagging off of the Laverda sidestand, although I must admit I made my own out of stainless. It was pretty much a copy of the original with extra bracing on the root to prevent bending.
It works brilliantly and doesn't get caught up with the centrestand as it is quite far forward.


Keith N did the lever that pushes the stand down
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Simon,
Bit of tell-tale rust running down from the LH lower engine mount, might want to check for tightness.

Side stand looks good, never had any problem with mine. I use a disc lock, rotated up against the caliper, acts as a hand brake, preventing the bike from rolling forward off the side-stand.

Terry
 
Terry, It's ok that's Copper Slip!

Mr Nairn said it seemed to ooze out everywhere on the bike when I sent it up to him!!!!!
They didn't call me the 'Copperslip Kid' for nothin at work!!!
 
Dellortoman said:
Huh? It's only a crappy phone camera. The only centre weight anywhere near the camera is my gut.
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My mates at work tell me these modern phones have got great cameras! It seems they are a bit over optimistic.
I never use my phone camera = POS, but then again it is a Nokia 6230i.
 
Sidestand spring succesfully extracted. Only took a few minutes of wangling around and about 30 swear words.

Frame is now completely naked - ready for stiffening and painting.

 

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