Q plate in the uk ?

I bought a '71SF years ago with Q plate.  I just took the plate off and applied for registration. Didn't even need a letter or certificate, just showed the the green book's list of engine numbers by year.

They sent someone to inspect the bike and to be honest, I was impressed as the inspector was really knowledgeable and a proper bike nut. Went like clockwork and reg came through very fast. It would appear the DVLA does not (or did not) have the ability to track a vehicle by frame or engine number.
 
My GTL had a Q plate when I got it. I got a dating letter from ILOC's John Forkbender and took that with my V5, old tax disc and MoT certificate to our local DVLA office. Half an hour later I walked out with an age related number. Only thing was the dating letter just said 1977 not the month, so they had to give me a plate from early in the year which meant I got an R rather than an S suffix. They didn't need to inspect the bike either.
 
I can do you a dating certificate Kevin, details are under services on the ILOC webpage, but be warned the more you give them (DVLA) the more easilly they are confused, I recently did a letter for the old duffer (John Philip) via my post at VMCC and it was rejected because he also included a letter from John the former farmer which stated the same imnformation but had a letter which was written four years previously, so he had to reapply enclosing only my letter and was rejected again, the grounds were that he originally inlcuded a date leter from JF and a date letter from me, so he must do only that but with letters which have been written no longer than 14 days prior.
CLEM
 
Bloody bureaucrats eh?  ::)

Be nice if they could apply a bit of common sense and just let us get on with what we do. It's not as if their banging of rubber stamps will make any difference in the real world.
 
Thanks Clem I will take some pics and some rubbings when I get chance .

Andy mine is on a GTL too, are there many GTLs around this one has the alternator so I am guessing its an ex police one .
 
Hey All

Slightly off topic:-

There is an urban myth in the UK that says ''Q plated bikes cannot be insured fully comp '' this is not true.

                                    Cheers
                                            Matt
 
I also heard there is no way to get them off a Q plate but it seems some folk have done it.
 
troutbishop said:
Andy mine is on a GTL too, are there many GTLs around this one has the alternator so I am guessing its an ex police one .
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Kev, as you'll by now be aware Steve Winterton had a batch of them from Kuwait, back in 1985 I think. Of the 18 or so bikes Graham Binnion and I had one each, I think they were ?150 each! Graham restored his to civilian spec and made me an Egli frame for mine, which had an SF3 engine. We sold them on, and 20-odd years later I jumped at the chance when another Kuwait bike came up for sale. If it wasn't for the ex-Police bikes, I don't think there would be many GTLs in the UK.

This how your bike would have looked when it got to the UK. Not a pretty sight, they'd been just dumped in the desert and came to the UK on the deck of an oil tanker.

 

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Grant said:
I also heard there is no way to get them off a Q plate but it seems some folk have done it.
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Grant, I think you are right that you can't swap a Q plate for a proper plate. I think the trick is to start again and register it, rather than re-register it. DVLA don't (or didn't) seem to be able to track already registered bikes by chassis number.

Pete
 
Poffer said:
Grant, I think you are right that you can't swap a Q plate for a proper plate. I think the trick is to start again and register it, rather than re-register it. DVLA don't (or didn't) seem to be able to track already registered bikes by chassis number.
Pete
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Sorry Pete/Grant, but you're mistaken. I went to the DVLA and had Q716DNR re-registered as UDG54R (a Gloucestershire number). It cost nothing, as the bike was taxed, and they couldn't have been more helpful. At a bike meet last year I parked alongside a guy on an Ossa with UDG55R, he'd done the same thing.
 
AndyB said:
Sorry Pete/Grant, but you're mistaken. I went to the DVLA and had Q716DNR re-registered as UDG54R (a Gloucestershire number). It cost nothing, as the bike was taxed, and they couldn't have been more helpful. At a bike meet last year I parked alongside a guy on an Ossa with UDG55R, he'd done the same thing.
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I think it depends why it was on a Q plate - mate of mine bought a Q plated Suzuki, expecting to be able to change it to an age related plate but DVLA refused it.

He thinks it ended up as a Q not because it was a grey but because a previous owner kept playing silly buggers with reg plates etc - they can take a reg no away from a vehicle in the event of persistent* reg plate offences

Bob

* I seem to recall that using a black & white plate when you should have yellow & black is one of the offences that can, if repeated too often, cause you to end up with a Q
 
Andy,

That's good to hear.....never thought I would say it, but it sounds like the DVLA used common sense  :o

:D :D

Pete
 
Poffer said:
Andy,

That's good to hear.....never thought I would say it, but it sounds like the DVLA used common sense  :o

:D :D

Pete
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Common sense - DVLA - Argggggghhh.
See the two white monotracers in this pic.
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DVLA registered the right hand one as a Private Light Goods and the left one as a Motorcycle.
Then had a change of heart and changed the right hand one from a PLG to a Motorcycle and the left
one from a Motorcycle to a PLG.
So you could drive the right one on a car license but now need a bike license and the opposite on
the other one.
Common Sense?
 
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