Removal of CDI Units

ngiles

ngiles

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As I get to know my new (to me) SFC1000 I am wondering if the CDI units (see photo) need to remain given that she is fitted with a DMC Moto Witt electronic ignition.  Looking at an RGS diagram its not clear to me that there is any need...

Cheers, Nick
 

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These BTZ units are no longer required once you fit a Witt system.
Even the wiring from them to the coils is surplus to requirements.
 
Dellortoman said:
Maybe it's just me, but I reckon it's a bit weird that someone would fit a new ignition and not remove the old Bosch BTZ boxes. 

Oddly enough, those shitty old BTZ units are worth money. Don't chuck them in the bin.
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Ducati-Pantah-Darmah-S2-Bosch-igniter-ignition-starter-module-1978-1986-tested/254119060153?hash=item3b2aad22b9:g:CKMAAOSwRaFcYRGF:rk:1:pf:0
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In a couple of years, the Lav fraternity will be crying out for them too, when all the DMC, Ignitech, Sachse, etc are binned in the quest for originality... :D ::)

piet
 
Dellortoman said:
Maybe it's just me, but I reckon it's a bit weird that someone would fit a new ignition and not remove the old Bosch BTZ boxes. 

Oddly enough, those shitty old BTZ units are worth money. Don't chuck them in the bin.
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Don't knock 'em too hard.  They work alright on Ducrappis.  Just Laverdas that seem a bit challenged ...  :P
 
In a couple of years, the Lav fraternity will be crying out for them too, when all the DMC, Ignitech, Sachse, etc are binned in the quest for originality... :D ::)
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Form over function?
 
Will only be form by then as petrol will be outlawed and we have to 'drive' in autonomous electric cars.
 
Grant said:
Will only be form by then as petrol will be outlawed and we have to 'drive' in autonomous electric cars.
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I'll either be dead or in a nursing home so it will be a problem for another generation to worry about.
 
May happen sooner than we think.
I saw an article yesterday saying that from 2022 or thereabouts all vehicles will have to be fitted with a device that ensures you can't break the speed limit in any speed zone.
I see the biggest threat coming from insurance companies as they will favour autonomous cars and/or cars stacked with electronics that take control away from the driver.
My son had a top of the range Golf GTI that had sonar in the front grille, which sensed other vehicles and would perform an emergency stop if it detected a stationary object ahead. As a result the car was 5 groups lower to insure, and this was a 210bhp sporty car.

If we choose to drive/ride vehicles that don't have all this crap on them then I'm sure our insurance rates will suddenly go through the roof, making them obsolete overnight.
 
Yep, my Audi has all that stuff as well. But until they can get the satellite mapping and GPS 100% reliable to within a metre or so I can't see the road covered with autonomous vehicles.
 
Ventodue said:
Don't knock 'em too hard.  They work alright on Ducrappis.  Just Laverdas that seem a bit challenged ...  :P
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They're no better on Ducatis than Laverdas. When I replaced them on my Ducati MHR with an Ignitech, it was like a different engine. Started easier, idled better and pick-up from low revs was so much smoother with no flat-spots. I'd been tweaking the carbs for years trying to improve the way it went, but all it needed was a better ignition system with a sensible advance map.
 
Grant said:
Well, they are already out there on extensive trials.
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they are out there you are 100%right but the problem is legal. If a driverless car has to choose between the person walking on the footpath or the Headon what's it going to do?.
It will do what it's programed to do so who does the walker claim off the car owner, driver, the head on driver, the programmer of the car and so on.
  They will not mix it will be one or the other.
 
I work with a company who are developing a driverless pod.  It's in the trial stage in some pedestrian areas and was discussing insurance with one of the engineers.  It has to be funded by the softwares/hardware (sensors and camera) supplier who developed the vehicle controls.

Apparently it is the reason the equipment is sooooooo expensive.

We'll all be told to buy them soon as insurance is "free", well hidden in the purchase and service contract.

Terminator!!!!

Cheers,
Andy
 
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