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wil

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Hi eveyone,
  the original front  brake of the RGS is extremely wetness sensitive. A short drive by rainy weather, and the braking efficiency goes on zero. Do you have any idea to improve the braking efficiency, e.g. with a special type of brake pads?

Wil
 
Try EBC carbon/kevlar organic pads, but really for the best performance fit a set of Brembo P30/34 four pot calipers with the appropriate adaptors- work well with the original master cylinder and aren't too obtrusive.
 
wil said:
The original front  brake of the RGS is extremely wetness sensitive. A short drive by rainy weather, and the braking efficiency goes on zero. Do you have any idea to improve the braking efficiency, e.g. with a special type of brake pads?
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Eh?! :o.  Shouldn't be, Wil ...  You sure you've got original Brembo cast iron discs, i.e. ones that go rusty as soon as your back is turned?

If yes, then change the pads.  I always use organics, as Reggies says, not sintered.  And Brembo.  But EBC or any quality make will do.
 
My RGS had the same problem. In my case the problem wasn't with the pads themselves but the quick build-up of rusty sludge on the disks when wet. Once the sludge was whisked away by lightly applying the brakes they would then work fine... until the sludge started building up again. Since I installed stainless disk outers to the earlier two piece style carrier I've had no more problems. 'Dunno why but I've only run across this with the RGS one piece disks. Never had this problem on any of our other Laverdas.

Tom
 
Tom Eatman said:
My RGS had the same problem. In my case the problem wasn't with the pads themselves but the quick build-up of rusty sludge on the disks when wet. Once the sludge was whisked away by lightly applying the brakes they would then work fine... until the sludge started building up again. Since I installed stainless disk outers to the earlier two piece style carrier I've had no more problems. 'Dunno why but I've only run across this with the RGS one piece disks. Never had this problem on any of our other Laverdas.

Tom
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You need to be riding it more if that is your issue !
Funny thing that but you are right the solid type RGS rotors seem to be more suspect and fussy about pads esp in the wet than the earlier ones oh and the floaters on the Corsa and SFC1000 for some reason..
No seriously make sure you are using good quality organic pads or if you can find them NOS Brembo's (as they contain asbestos though shhhhh )..

Or lash out and get a set of EBC stainless rotors and pads to suit and your problems are solved for good no more rusty disc's and great stopping power.  Not original I know but well them's the brakes you need them to stop.

And please remember as Yogi would say............safety never takes a holiday
 
Brett said:
You need to be riding it more if that is your issue !
Funny thing that but you are right the solid type RGS rotors seem to be more suspect and fussy about pads esp in the wet than the earlier ones oh and the floaters on the Corsa and SFC1000 for some reason..
No seriously make sure you are using good quality organic pads or if you can find them NOS Brembo's (as they contain asbestos though shhhhh )..

Or lash out and get a set of EBC stainless rotors and pads to suit and your problems are solved for good no more rusty disc's and great stopping power.  Not original I know but well them's the brakes you need them to stop.

And please remember as Yogi would say............safety never takes a holiday
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OK, thank you for information. I drive my RGS since buy it new in 1983 with the original cast iron discs, and as I remember she has the wet problem from the first day on. My small Laverda, a 500SFC has also cast iron Brembos , but she she never had a wet fitness problem.
So I think it will be the best, to change the discs against stanless steel`s.
Wil
 
As the RGS discs are one piece I wonder if the factory changed the metallurgy spec.
They also suffer a high degree of disc breakages.
This maybe explains why the braking feel is different to discs with separate carriers.
 
Have run the solid discs and the ones with separate carriers and can't say that I've ever had a problem with braking in the wet with either type. I'd recommend changing pads before going to the expense of changing to stainless discs.
 
I changed the discs on my 180 to EBCs and HH pads which was an improvement, but nothing like when I put P30/34s on the RGS with the standard discs.  The ratio of the m/c to caliper as standard is just wrong.
 
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