RGS wiring diag

drikko

drikko

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Have just been trying to remotely diagnose a problem with Levo's regulator/battery and I ohnly have the below RGS wiring diagram which is clearly wrong. It shows one of the wires from both the alternator and the regulator going to the left switch block. I just went and had a look at mine and all three wires go between the regulator and the alternator assumedly for the 3 phases. Does anyone have a correct RGS diagram? Levo is saying the ground wire from the regulator is getting really how when the engine is running and talking them through how to use a multimeter by phone it appears to not be charging. I suspect the regulator is fried and dumping all the power to the earth wire instead of the battery. I'm picking up a regulator from Reds in the morning and hopefully we can fix it down the road. Anyone heard of this happening?

Wiring diagram which seems wrong. Anyone got a right one?

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The diagram is correct Drikko, your bike has been modified.

The bikes were originaly wired as per the diagram with one charge phase switched with the lights, not the best of ideas and I certainly modify any I get up here to run all three phases direct to the reg rec.

Keith.
 
Ah, I get it, the 3rd phase is only connected if the lights are on, that makes sense although I can't for the life of me see why, maybe the regulators are below standard. OK, will see what I can see if Levo can get as far as Tenterfield or wherever. Makes me think even more that Levos is bruk.


 
Is there an easy way to check for this conversion and is there a simple step way to convert it? Such as " take the x coloured wire from here and connect it to here"? 

I have the bodywork off for winter work so it's a good time to take a look.   
 
Shouldn't be too hard to figure out. If it's as per the factory the regulator has 5 wires, a red one which goes to the battery, a black one which goes to ground and 3 others of different colours. There should be 3 wires coming from the alternator. 2 of the wires from the alternator plug into 2 of the 3 wires from the regulator. the other wire from each should go dissappearing up towards the left switch cluster. You just need to disconnect these two wires from their run to the switch cluster and join them together and it's modded. In the unmodded original the headlight/parking light switch just connects the 2 wires together. You are simply taking the lilght switch out of the circuit and connecting that phase of the alternator to the regulator permanently.

Clear as mud?

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Mine is in black and white, with the colours marked in Italian- N for nero etc. as per the pic.  Not much help to you, I suppose, but I scanned it and printed it out A3+ which makes it a little easier to read.  But I do wish some clever person would do a nice colour one...
 
Reggie3cl said:
Mine is in black and white, with the colours marked in Italian- N for nero etc. as per the pic.  Not much help to you, I suppose, but I scanned it and printed it out A3+ which makes it a little easier to read.  But I do wish some clever person would do a nice colour one...
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Can you email it to me at the highest res you have so I can take a look, Mine looks like a scan of a photocopy of a photocopy of a photocopy if you know what I mean. I can't make out the colour letters even blown right up, drikko at westnet dot com dot au

Thanks




 
Hello Lads,
              Best approach is replace the RR with a rated unit for the ND stator,  i like the FET RR that come on more modern sports bikes, or the good old SH530 will work on the RGS in constant duty operation, ie omit the headlight switched phase cludge.  HTH John
 
We'll be using whatever red can rustle up later this morning :) Levo is continuing on with a constant loss system, but he will be in company with Cosi on the seth efrican in about an hour so they can swap batteries if need be till I catch them up with parts.

Thanks for that though John.


Cheers

D
 
I haven't switched phase in my cludge before...
Must mean something different in Strine.  :D :D :D

 
Can you email it to me at the highest res you have so I can take a look,
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Er, well, yeah, I can,  but it's 27megs  :o  It's just a scan from a photocopy of the 120 manual, so it's still not brilliant...
 
Drikko dropped in this morning, grabbed a 530 regulator, soldering iron, tools, etc
is going to change Levo's set up to a "true" 3 phase regulator
all good, now all he has to do is find Levo somewhere in NSW



 
Redax to the rescue,  once more.  Not forgetting to connect the brown wire to the White/Red wire....  or he will be easly found once more in NSW,  by the road side,  :).  John
 
So I found levo in tenterfield along with a few other reprobates. We rode down to walcha and pulled it apart in the pub  carpark. What I found was a wiring crime scene  it had already been converted to proper  3 phase but probably by someone the the wiring skills comparable to my welding skills. First the voltage sense wire fell out of its crimp. Then the ground lead fell apart closely followed by the red charge wire. All the joins were the cheap plastic crimps and you could see they were done with the cheap $3 crimpers..so pulled it all apart soldered all the connections and heatshrinked them. Checked the alternator coils were ok still. Plugged in the regulator and started it up. Hey presto all working :) no need for the spare regulator it turned out:). It amazing what you can do in a pub carpark with an unlimited supply of beer!
 
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