Stainless exhausts 180 jota

Whatever the brand of stainless exhaust is that I have on my Mirage, Armours or Feked, it isn't bad at all: good fit and no cracks..

I bought a full set of Malcolm's pipes/collectors, and headers from elsewhere to fit to it but, given the need for them on The German (*1588*) was greater,  fitted them to it instead. I've since sourced another set from Malcolm though expect they'll go on the older 3C rather than the Mirage..

Choices choices..

AndyW
 
As per the email conversation I had with Feked, they do not make their own pipes. The pipes I got from them had mis-matched tail sections (can't really call them silencers) and the set up was a bloody poor fit. They did do the right thing and refunded the cost of the pipes and shipping.
 
I have Reds big bore headers and collector fitted to a set of stainless mufflers I bought from Eades years ago. The rear connection between the collector and mufflers was not even close to the right angle,mufflers are not real parallel to the bikes line,. Mix and matching is far from easy.
 
Just remembered the other fault with the pipes supplied by Feked. They had the clamps welded onto the collector inlets but there was absolutely no way you could fit a bolt into the central inlet without cutting the clamps off, fitting the bolt and welding it all back on. Useless design.
 
Interesting points! If I had my time over again I WOULD buy Armour but I would grind the inbuilt clamps off of the silencers and use an external clamp. I didn't realise that that the downpipes had a triple bend (0 out of 10 for observation).

The other option for me would be Malcolms silencers and Armour everything else.

The big thing for me is the Armours sound fantastic, fit extremely well (Jota 120) and performance is faultless.
 
SimonR501 said:
Interesting points! If I had my time over again I WOULD buy Armour but I would grind the inbuilt clamps off of the silencers and use an external clamp. I didn't realise that that the downpipes had a triple bend (0 out of 10 for observation).

The other option for me would be Malcolms silencers and Armour everything else.

The big thing for me is the Armours sound fantastic, fit extremely well (Jota 120) and performance is faultless.
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Well, thanks to this thread I'm now of the opinion the system on my Mirage is Armour.. and, yes, they do sound pretty good (Maxene liked it so it must be true :D) although, as Red pointed out, the triple bend in the headers is a bit ordinary (naff). I bought in a set of silencers from Malcolm and then found the clamps on the Armour collector were inbuilt and so wouldn't easily fit: at that point I decided to leave as is and live with it..

Another thing to consider is that the stainless steel used is pretty rigid (304?). I was also tempted to cut off the inbuilt clamp to fit an external clamp (eg with better looking headers) but wasn't persuaded I'd achieve a good seal with an external clamp as opposed to the inbuilt one which pulls the join together rather than pushes it as an external clamp would; then there was the lack of room to fit a suitable external clamp which would do the job and what it might look like, blah blah etc: too hard...

AndyW 8)
 
I have a Kenyan system on my Jota....suffered cracking collector box syndrome, and it also seemed too short. Sorted now, but I treated myself to a black ceramic collector from Malcolm...but it doesn't fit! Probably a fault of the Keihan system I guess. Malcolm was going to make some 180 headers, but not sure if he does?Ultimimately I will change to his silencers too I think, they do look top quality.Do chrome headers discolour like the S/s ones?
 
Kenyan?

Chrome tends to blue (or rust) whereas stainless turns a straw yellow colour.
The advantage though is you can buff them back to shiny (but have to do it every so often).
I use chromed steel downpipes and stainless silencers in my own bikes.

I have found fitting issues with every make of aftermarket collectors I have used except the ones I got for POP from Wolfgang. They have a tapered profile at the 3:1 and 1:2 sections.

Sorry, this is the best pic I have of it.

 
Grant said:
I have found fitting issues with every make of aftermarket collectors I have used except the ones I got for POP from Wolfgang. They have a tapered profile at the 3:1 and 1:2 sections.
Sorry, this is the best pic I have of it.
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bought quite a few of those systems from Wolfgang, very nice and well made system, fitted, looked and sounded great
unfortunately, I understand his supplier went bankrupt, they were made in Germany
damn shame, not had much luck with all the other available brands, either look like crap with odd bends, are too short or crack apart
such is the way for aftermarket kit in general



 
Dellortoman said:
What's the plate on the inside of the left-hand muffler bend for? Reinforcing?
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The silencers were originally intended for a RGS model.  These have a cross brace bolted between the silencers with a rubber pad in the middle  that acts as a stop for the centre stand.

piet
 
It now has the cross brace in place. No need for the rubber pad though as it doesn't have a centrestand.
 
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