gt & sf starters

Evan

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Texas
Was the Sf & Gt starter used on the Honda 800 1965 -70 sports car or the Toyota sports car same period? Long shot but there might be one here in Tx...Honda produced about 18,000. Toyota only 2,000.
 

sfcpiet

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Hondas yes, don't know about Toyotas.

Just as sought after in the Honda community as the Laverda...

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Paul Marx

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France
A lot more Honda fans out there than Laverda fans. The world is in a sad state.
(Likely however that Honda cars destroyed their starter with less regularity than Laverda 750 owners)

Paul
 

Alzero

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Arguably, the Hondas and Toyotas cars referenced are just as cool, if not even cooler, than any Laverda. The Honda had twin chain rear wheel drive and revved to 8000rpm and the Toyota S2000 was a Bond car. Besides being drop dead gorgeous, since it was designed by Albert Goetz who gave us the BMW 507 and the 240Z IIRC.
 

Laverda1000.de

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Arguably, the Hondas and Toyotas cars referenced are just as cool, if not even cooler, than any Laverda. The Honda had twin chain rear wheel drive and revved to 8000rpm and the Toyota S2000 was a Bond car. Besides being drop dead gorgeous, since it was designed by Albert Goetz who gave us the BMW 507 and the 240Z IIRC.
It was Albrecht Graf Goertz, but I agree, I love the looks of it. Just as the mazda Cosmo and eatly Celica, the Japanese made some pretty cars (and bikes). I think a Yamaha TX750, a Suzuki T500 or a Honda 350K are extremely pretty.
 

CLEMTOG

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Honda S800 is correct, but there were 19,720 (ish) Laverda twins and all use the same starter apart from about 3 protos which used a Bosch pre-engaged unit, Eveil Kneival had at least one of those, but Honda didnt even make half that number of cars, which begs the question, did Moto Laverda buy the excess ND units that Honda did not then need?
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sfcpiet

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Honda S800 is correct, but there were 19,720 (ish) Laverda twins and all use the same starter apart from about 3 protos which used a Bosch pre-engaged unit, Eveil Kneival had at least one of those, but Honda didnt even make half that number of cars, which begs the question, did Moto Laverda buy the excess ND units that Honda did not then need?
CLEM
Why should Breganze have needed to use up any excess? Surely Laverda was in a position to order directly from Nippon Denso, 20.000 odd starter motors plus spare parts over the span of 7 years sounds like a bit more than "excess". The factory must have odered about 15.000 (a good 9000 for the triples, the rest for later 750s and spares stock) handlebar switch sets as well, so they probably weren't NDs smallest client. ND possibly held a small amount of stock for a while to help out, but that's all 40-odd years ago. That stuff will have been thrown out long ago. Manufacturers lose interest quickly if stuff isn't moved on. By the time the Honda tiddlers were obsolete, Laverda wouldn't have had any interest on re-stocking starters for a model for which the writing was on the wall.

Honda surely stocked up on spares as well, but that has since dried up, just like Laverdas'... nothing lasts forever.

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MarnixSFC

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Honda S800 is correct, but there were 19,720 (ish) Laverda twins and all use the same starter apart from about 3 protos which used a Bosch pre-engaged unit, Eveil Kneival had at least one of those,
CLEM
Evel jumped with regular production GT Am Eagles, not with prototypes, as far as I know. Do you have pics that show otherwise?

Marnix
 

CLEMTOG

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I dont have photographs to show Kneival on the Bosch starter equipped twins Marnix, I watched a video at Ray Sheepwash's house a long time ago, and we "freeze framed" the film a few times and it was clear that the solo that he was jumping had the odd shaped dynamo belt cover that went with the Bosch pre-engaged starter, I also have a memory of the same thing on the sidecar that was used to parade the thug/idiot around the arena before the jump, but that is much less vague and probably wrong
CLEM
 
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