Factory RGS 1000 Executive info and hello from California

TripleCPro

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Hi all!
Just wanted to take a second to introduce myself, share my father's RGS 1000 Executive and pick your brains. Some back story first: My father has been collecting vintage Italian bikes for years. It's not that he's wealthy or anything, but he would try and buy one every few years without selling the last. Well, back in the mid 80s he bought an RGS 1000 Executive with 5024 miles from a small shop in the Bay Area. The owner of the shop had bought it from Roger Slater (I believe that was his name, the Laverda importer) and ridden it to Texas and back on a vacation. After the trip he put it up for sale and that was it. The bike was stone stock and immaculate. My dad fell in love with it, bought it...and proceeded to ride it for 100 miles before parking it in the garage until now. So, several decades later we're going to be bringing it back. It still looks as it did back then, save for a Jota exhaust collector, Jota mufflers, a custom crash-bar, a fork brace and a German ignition system (I can't remember the name). He kept all of the stock parts and I'm undecided if I'll leave it as is, or return it back to 100% stock.
But here's where you guys come in! My dad never remembered much about the specifics of the bike other than the owner said it was a factory Executive and a very early production number. After some poking around on the Interwebs (that's how I found you guys) I discovered that the first 15 or so Executives were the only factory examples, the rest were either dealer or owner conversions. It's also my understanding that these 15 factory Executives were silver AND had the "Executive" stamped on the VIN tag and elsewhere. So this is where it gets confusing, my father's Executive appears to be Vin #02, it's stamped with "Executive" on the factory VIN tag and elsewhere...but it's red. So what gives? My father remembers the owner of the shop telling him it was one of the first RGS1000 Executives to come in country and that nothing had been changed on it. Is there a chance one of the 15 legitimate Executives was red? If not, I wonder if the guy swapped the silver bodywork for red? Or the other possibility, that despite the Vin tag etc., that it's a dealer conversion. Either way, I love the bike and can't wait to hear it run! I can take more pics if anyone is curious about other specifics. 

I'm still several months out on the restoration process, but once we get rolling on it I'll post updates here on the forums. I've attached an old pic of the bike (circa who knows when) along with a pic of the head-tube tag. Any guidance would be much appreciated.  :)

Thanks all!

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Well, if this info is correct (http://www.laverdaforum.com/forum/index.php?topic=82301.5;wap2) my father's RGS is a legitimate Executive based on the VIN info. The 7th digit in the VIN is a "D". It looks like a ziptie on the factory wiring has been scratching that part of the tag, I'm going to have to do something about it.
If this is a legitimate Executive, that's pretty cool, if not, no worries, I still love the bike and look forward to restoring it with my father.
Is there a way I can verify if the bodywork came on the bike, like special "Executive" stamping, badges, a VIN or something that would help me identify if the dealer was in fact correct that the bike came with the red bodywork from the factory?
 
This should be interesting,the last time this came up some feathers got rustled.I think there are a couple of bits that are very rare and didnt usualy get fitted by dealers.
 
Vince said:
This should be interesting,the last time this came up some feathers got rustled.I think there are a couple of bits that are very rare and didnt usualy get fitted by dealers.

Thanks for the reply. Oh I hope I don't rustle any feathers, it's not my intent! I'm just curious as to what my father has. Any and all info would be much appreciated and like I said, I can get some more pics if that would help further identify it beyond the VIN tag.

Thanks!
 
Welcome.
Ha ha, this will be fun.
It has Executive badge on sidepanel, Executive on VIN.
Does it have the panniers?
If so, is there a mounting hole at the rear of the footrest plates?
The red colour is confirmed by the red insert in the seat.
I always believed they were available in red as well as silver.
PLC will be choking on his cornflakes...  :D
 
Hi all! Thanks for the replies. I didn't want to post the whole VIN on the Interwebs, but I'd happily e-mail it to anyone who wants it , just please keep it private. My dad says it has the bags but he was so anal about scratching them that he never mounted them. When he gets back from vacation next week I'll see if I can get some photos of them. And yes, I remembered reading about a mounting hole of sorts on the peg-mounts but forgot to look last time I was over there. I'll take a peek later this week when I swing by their house to feed their cat!
 
Its all good here,nice to see another being prepped to be ridden.Might even be a good example for the originally anal types to get some pics on record.
 
Well, it all checks out.
PLC claimed only silver ones were genuine, and any red ones would not have all of the identifying features, which as far as I can see your one has.
Many were retro-fitted by dealers with a kit from the factory to shift unsold RGS models, but they tend to lack things like the Executive name on the VIN and maybe even the holes for the pannier mounts on the footrest plates.
It is a rare bike. Bring it back to rude health and go enjoy it!
You will find all the information and support you need here on the forum.
 
Nice bike!  The pannier racks are installed, so one would assume panniers are also with the bike.  The silver wheels would tend to support the fact it is a genuine Executive, as most Red RGS's had the gold wheels.  Get it back on the road and enjoy, they're a cracking bike.
Cheers
SteveB
 
Grant said:
Well, it all checks out.
PLC claimed only silver ones were genuine, and any red ones would not have all of the identifying features, which as far as I can see your one has.
Many were retro-fitted by dealers with a kit from the factory to shift unsold RGS models, but they tend to lack things like the Executive name on the VIN and maybe even the holes for the pannier mounts on the footrest plates.
It is a rare bike. Bring it back to rude health and go enjoy it!
You will find all the information and support you need here on the forum.

Thanks for the info, much appreciated! I'll take a look at the peg plate later this week, but all I remember is that there is a brace (it looks factory) that connects the bag mounts to the rearset (is that what we call it?) plate but I didn't pay much attention to it when I was over there other than it's a circular mount on the rearset plate.
I'm 31 now and only heard it run once! I'm looking forward to spending some quality time with my pops and now that he's gotten older it's all the more special to start working on his old bikes.
As for the bags, I just called my father and he said they're, get this, wrapped in T-shirts and in a cupboard because he didn't want to scratch them. Ha ha! He also said, being the Type A guy that he is, that he was emphatic about the bike and that the owner of the shop was absolute that it had never been crashed and it was in factory condition as it was delivered to the US. My father recalls that the owner said he had a hard time selling it as new, that it was too expensive and nobody wanted it, so he prepped it and rode it to Texas. After he got back that's when he put it back up for sale and my father found it.
 
Hi there (and don't be shy of putting your name on here, please, most of us do and still do not get arrested or robbed  :D).

great story of your dad and his bikes. Enjoy the time with him restoring the bike, there is absolutely nothing better and you will remember this for your lifetime. If you have kids, let them be part of the process if they show just the slightest interest. Life is short and these moments are more rare than the bike, which definitely is.

The RGS is one of the most undervalued bikes Laverda every built and only ever has seen some appreciation in the past maybe 3-5 years really from the community. Fact is, it has so many advances in styling and technology non of the bikes in the early 80's in that class ever had I think. Fuel level gauge, the tank flap in the fairing, the rotatable footrest holders, the bayflex fairing etc. etc. etc. Absolutely great bike and comfortable even for longer distances.

I can't help unfortunately on your bike specifically and there is not much to be found in the typical books like the Twins & Triples Bible from Ian Falloon to help you any further. The best bet would maybe be to contact Slaters in the UK, as they seem to have kept some records about the bikes sold, which could help. At leas that is the case for the so called "genuine" Jota's.

Hope that helps and enjoy the time with your father and the bike!!  ;)
 
Hi mate, welcome.

What are the last two numbers stamped in the frame above the VIN plate? Looks like 96, but there is already a 2296 on JLO's registry, which is listed as an Executive. Maybe it is 2295? If it is 2295, it would point to it being an Executive, as 2294 is on the same registry, also listed as an Executive.

Look here. http://www.laverdamania.net/registre120.htm

 
A word of caution.
We are all on this forum maybe older than your pop!!!
:D :D :D
 
glad to see another west coaster on the forum..  what part of the state are you in?

nice bike !
 
Thanks for the many replies, this has been awesome. I can't wait to start going through and bringing his bikes back to life. In addition to the RGS, he's got 10 or so Benellis (twins and sixes), many older BMWs, a Bevel-drive Ducati and some other pretty cool bikes. I think I might start a blog just to document everything and so I'll have something to remember it all by.
As for the frame stamping above the tag, I think it's a "5." But when I go back to checkout the foot-peg plate I'll take another picture. I look forward to hanging around here and learning as much about these bikes as I can!
I'm located in the Bay Area. Anyone else nearby?

Thanks again!

-Justin
 
I am not from bay area, but I have been there (if we talk about San Francisco). Had a good night in the Palace hotel ballrom (23rd or so floor - great view!)
 
Hi Justin

I am in Calgary, Alberta, Canada. I am the "PLC" that Grant has been referring to.

Sounds like your dad's bike is original enough to still have its various factory stickers. There are several small specific identifiers as to whether the bike left the factory as an Executive, and I can provide a short list. However, most of the Executive model identifiers were also available to the various Laverda dealers as add ons, like the fairing extenders, the saddlebags, the taller bars, etc.

The VIN plate is an "add on", to comply with U.S.A. regs on import. If you were to pry out the two rivets holding it on (very carefully!), underneath you will find the actual factory serial number stamping on the frame neck....

The silver wheels are a great indicator, bodywork swaps between silver and red were certainly frequently done at the dealer level, and I don't think there is any way to tell what colour the bike was when it left the factory, so red, or silver, lets look at the factory details which would be less likely to have been changed by a dealer or owner.

The first thing and easiest thing to check is under the seat. On the top of the plastic rear fender there will be a large clear sticker with white lettering. The odds of a dealer changing that sticker is very very low, not impossible I suppose, but very unlikely. These days it would also be possible to reproduce the sticker, but I don't think there is the same market forces for counterfeiting an Executive as there is in counterfeiting SFC 750's...... ;)

so, as an initial indicator, take the seat off and have a look at the sticker. Attached below are three shots of the same sticker. If the low resolution permitted by the forum software makes them tough to read, I can send you direct the high resolution versions.

At the top of the fender sticker, directly under the "Emissions Control Information" heading, you then get headings as follows:
Manufacturer:
Engine Family:
Motorcycle Model:
Engine displacement:
etc
then slightly further down,
under "Fuel and Lubricant Information"
Model:

have a look at what the sticker on your bike says for "Motorcycle Model", and "Model" and compare to what the photos I have attached show. The third photo attached is likely the best , and the only one that also shows the Fuel and Lubricant information" section. I will be interested to hear the result of the comparison! Great looking bike either way!!

Paul LeClair





 

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MotoV said:
I'll have to go find the info but the  VIN for an exec had a different set of letters than the RGS/A.

It was linked in Reply 1 by the OP:-

ZLV world manufacturing identifier Z = italy, L = laverda.
(V may be for vicenza but i don't know offhand)

next 5 digits are motorcycle type, engine type, hp, model
M = motorcycle, V = 120, D = 1000, H = RGS (model), A = model variation

MVDGA is RGA
MVDHA is RGS
MVDDA is RGS Executive

9th digit is check digit, some weird formula NHTSA came up with
10th digit is year; A 1980, B 1981, C 1983
remainder is sequential production number (for that model)
 
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