Jota 120 Frame Paint

Ppuxley

Ppuxley

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Sulham, Berkshire, UK
I have been the owner of Jota 120 #8516 since 1986. I  pulled it from the back of the garage at the weekend, where its been for 5 years (I think), to take the motor out because its on its way to Keith in Glasgow in the New Year to have him work his magic.
While its there I want to get the frame re-coated.

Not wanting to be accused of not researching properly  before posting, I found the above in an old post.
Dennis said:
The silver frame is Weiss aluminum (White aluminum) RAL 9006.
Dennis
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So to my questions. Will this be the right frame colour for my Jota 120 and what is the best option powder coating or a decent two part epoxy paint.
Hope someone can help
Patrick
 

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On the Jota frame there is a large disc welded onto each side through which the centre stand spindle passes. Grease finds its way between the disc and the frame gusset. If you powder coat the frame this grease will seep out and prevent the powder coat from properly adhering. So, if you opt for powder coating be sure to clean this area thoroughly; something like brake cleaner or a similar degreaser and compressed air will do the trick.
Dennis
 
Not sure about the 120 Jota, but the attached pic shows the paint code I used for my 180 frame. 
This was an exact match to the original in colour and metallic texture.    The code was identified by another forum member in a post many years ago, but I couldn't find the link.   

For the wheels and other bits I used RAL 9006.

Tom
 

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Powder coat on my triple frame is quite ok after 23 years and 80000km.  Centre stand brace has lost a bit of colour though... ::)

To each his own, I guess.

Dennis said:
On the Jota frame there is a large disc welded onto each side through which the centre stand spindle passes.
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Dennis,

Surely you meant the swingarm spindle. :D

piet
 
If it were black then you might consider powder coating, but all silver jobs I've seen in powder have ended up looking like battleship grey (one of mine included).  Go two pack RAL 9006 "Weissaluminium", have just done an 81 in that colour and it looks the goods.
 
Yes, forgot to write my frame is black.

The clear coat used over silver powder often seperates from the base, flaking off wherever pressure is applied, such as around bolt heads, etc.

If it were to be silver, I'd prefer paint as well.  Will still serve you a curve ball or 2!

piet
 
Thanks for all the advice.
My inclination is for a two pack paint, but I'd also like to talk to a few painters/coaters to sound them out. I see Triple S mentioned, has anyone got any spray painters to recommend in the UK.
Have a call out to these people
http://www.whitesbodyworks.com/motorcycle-paintwork/
And I thought I'd also give these people a bell
http://www.sportandclassic.co.uk. Who have recently done another 1982 jota 120
 
I have the black frames powder coated as I have trained my powder coater to apply it nice and thin using a one coat gloss rather than base and laquer. For the silver frames I have them wet painted with gloss polyurethane, no laquer, over self etch primer you must use white primer under silver. Best match for the factory finish and nice and thin so it does not ping off when the machine is assembled, silver powder coat never looks quite right in my opinion either too flat or too sparkly and always too thick. The guy that does mine for me does a first class job but he is in Edinburgh.. A 120 Jota I restored last year....

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  Keith
 
laverdakeith said:
....................... The guy that does mine for me does a first class job but he is in Edinburgh.. A 120 Jota I restored last year....

  Keith
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Beautiful! Keith. And you managed not to state the obvious............which is, I should be sending you the whole bike and not just the motor! Problem is I don't think I've got the budget. I'll give you a ring straight after Christmas and before Neil is due up there to see what's best to do.
BTW- the cam cover on the 120 in the photos looks different to mine?..........
 
No Ppuxley, you are correct. Those cam covers could be off a Corsa. God knows why they are there. Yours should be more rounded. The rear 120 shocks were originally Marzos with a grey body, and the Jota 120 seat is normally a single with a rear hump. The handlebar grips aren't original and the bugger has got rear view mirrors which 'aint original either. I love my 120 without mirrors. Don't need them really. Pissed me off that....
Everything else looks reasonably kosher, and I'm very glad to see that the beaut has gold pin striping, not thick white crap. Whether it is painted on or is from a roll is yet to be seen, but nevertheless the bike looks a real beauty.
Finally, the bike is missing some black and silver edging strip around the bottom fairing half but this stuff is nigh impossible to get nowadays and Wolfgang in Canuck land uses stuff found on a snowmobile. Hey, but who is counting.....I'm sure the riveters will find more amiss but who gives a damn. It's gorgeous.  :D :D :D :D

Enjoy your Jota 120. It is a fabulous allround bike with most of the problems of the earlier 180's ironed out. Oh, and you don't have to wear pink leathers to ride one these days despite what the other jealous cants say lol.

Cheers

DoC!
 
DoC! said:
No Ppuxley, you are correct. Those cam covers could be off a Corsa. God knows why they are there. Yours should be more rounded. The rear 120 shocks were originally Marzos with a grey body, and the Jota 120 seat is normally a single with a rear hump. The handlebar grips aren't original and the bugger has got rear view mirrors which 'aint original either. I love my 120 without mirrors. Don't need them really. Pissed me off that....
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RGA actually.  The Corsa would have an electronic tach, thus not requiring a drive from the cam, as does the RGA, which had a mechanically driven tach.

Jota 120 should have the same cover as the 180, the tach drive is taken from the inlet cam.  The 120s with mechanical tach drive had it taken from the exhaust cam.  Pretty obvious then that later 120 cams were installed.

The 120 cover is far easier to keep clean, no ribbed surface to keep you occupied for a full Saturday afternoon. :D

Mirrors would have been fitted to bikes for certain markets where they would have been mandatory at the time.  This was usually up to the national importers/distributors or dealers.  Can't really imagine riding without these days. ::)

piet
 
Really nice job Keith - looks a minter - DoC thats anal analysis - no self respecting general public person in awe would ahve a clue  :LOL:

Two things revolutionalised riding Joan Collins which made it so enjoyable

1. Mirrors - i can't do without them as my neck wont turn that far back with clips ons
2. Joe's side stand plate enabling me to move the old girl around the garage so easily and not looking a twat when heaving her onto her centrestand


 
 
Has F1 cams from an sfc1000 in it and 81mm pistons, Mikunis, flowed head etc etc. Wilbers 630 shocks and modified forks. So damn fast the pikey fairing trim blew away. Built for riding hence the comfortable grips modern switchgear and mirrors.

  Keith
 
My 120 jota still has the original silver paint, getting very thin in a few places, the wheels especially.  If i ever had the budget to repaint, it would be paint, not powder coat.  If your frame is not too bad, i would keep the original finish.  Will be hard to find an original jota in years to come.

Marty
 
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