Alzero
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- DaNang Vietnam
Cars and bikes I’ve come across in my travels
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The Sock
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- London, England
Down to the Six Bells, in Chiddingly, this evening.
andre g
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Suzuki T 20, my first bike, but mine was red
chrisk
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- Brisbane, Australia
It’s a Laverda/Honda type argument.Suzuki T 20, my first bike, but mine was red
Who copied who, Suzukis T20 vs Bridgestone GTR
My brother had both, the Bridgestone crucified crankshafts the T20 never broke anything
EncinoBoy
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- British Columbia,Canada
Huge differences between an X6 and a GTR !!! The only common thread was both were
two stroke twins. The Suzuki when it arrived in 1965 was a revolution but in 1967 the GTR
was equally revolutionary technically. Never heard of the Bridgestone grenading crankshafts
though...
two stroke twins. The Suzuki when it arrived in 1965 was a revolution but in 1967 the GTR
was equally revolutionary technically. Never heard of the Bridgestone grenading crankshafts
though...
Learned to ride on a Bridgestone 90, with selectable gear box shift pattern, you learned to count gears of over the bars you went... the GTR remains a dream, though i was not aware of motor issues... rotary disk valve were not common in the day... here is a link for Bridgestone selectable shift pattern
The full explanation is in the service manual at http://bridgestonemotorcycleparts.com/PDF/BS175ServiceManual.pdf , go to page 37.
The short answer is that it is a 5-speed return shift (neutral on top) with the selector lever in one position and a 4 speed rotary shift with the selector lever in the other position.
The full explanation is in the service manual at http://bridgestonemotorcycleparts.com/PDF/BS175ServiceManual.pdf , go to page 37.
The short answer is that it is a 5-speed return shift (neutral on top) with the selector lever in one position and a 4 speed rotary shift with the selector lever in the other position.
pf1
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- Portsmouth UK
I have a couple of Suzuiki 250's stuck in a container in Portugal. A T20 and a TC250. One day I will get around to sorting them out. I used to see 16 year old lads picking them up brand new from Eddie Crooks shop with learner plates attached because the hadn't passed their bike test yet. The poor bikes didn't last long in their hands before they seized up when they forgot to put oil in the tank or were crashed. Nice bikes though and fast in the day.
Alan
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- Northern Ireland
I started on its little brother the T200 Invader. Most of them disappeared here into the road racing seen. As the 196cc engine was very popular.Suzuki T 20, my first bike, but mine was red
a14rgs
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- Wiltshire, UK
Saw this Munch in Peel, during my recent visit to the Isle of Man TT.
Here's the spec!
Here's the spec!
Münch Mammut 2000 2001 4 cyl 1998cc 2712 - Yesterdays
Münch 2001 “Mammut 2000” 1998cc 16 valve DOHC turbocharged transverse four # 15 Thomas Petsch, an entrepreneur from Würzburg blessed with the experience and financial strength of a successful CEO, was a dedicated motorcyclist and an avid Münch fan. When in 1997 he met his great idol Friedel...
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Sometimes the original is unique in and of the era, "new" version could be better, however it will be very fortunate to have the aura of the era when first produced. This holds true for the Laverda ridden here, much is about the era and the history under you as rider.... new cannot have a history, yet to be written or experienced, j.
breganzane
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- NSW Australia
That modern Munch is actually a pretty good reimagining of the original bike. The original was huge, ungainly and frankly looked a bit slapped-together-in-a-shed from bits that don't really fit together but somehow had something cool about it in a semi-bizarre sort of way. The new one looks kinda the same to me, I like it.
Alzero
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- DaNang Vietnam
Is there any indication what engine is used? 280lb ft of torque! Four times that of the RGS that was posted here yesterday. And it probably weighs the same.
CLEMTOG
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I very much prefer the original, (and wanted one for decades, maybe still do), it evolved over the years, I think Munch ended up making the entire engine unit, the originals were of course car type, NSU Prinz engines. Sammy Millers daughter has just bought one for the museum, a year or so ago, and it cost £180,000! 70's of course, I dont gell with the last of the line, that chain guard is so ugly??? strangely I detested the Shifty for decades, (Fiat 127 engine/ Laverda chassis) sort of in the same mould, but now, I would like one of those!
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Gerald
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Münch Mammut 2000
Gerald
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Seems that only 15 where made, and when one comes up for sale, even with a scratched tank, asking price is above 100K €
Alzero
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- DaNang Vietnam
Cosworth cylinder head implies a Ford engine although it is not stated anywhere.
It is chain drive, but there is no way to move the rear axle, can we assume that the bolt on the bottom of the chain guard is a tension adjuster?
It is chain drive, but there is no way to move the rear axle, can we assume that the bolt on the bottom of the chain guard is a tension adjuster?
Gerald
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Cosworth has done work for others in the past, Mercedes 190 E 2.3 -16V engine comes to mind.
Münch 2000 will never reach the status of the original designed by Friedel Münch.
Even Gerard Depardieu used the original for adisturbing movie....
en.wikipedia.org
Münch 2000 will never reach the status of the original designed by Friedel Münch.
Even Gerard Depardieu used the original for a