14mm Piston Stop

Gbarnes3

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Guy's I am having trouble finding a piston stop that has a 14mm thread that I can use to find accurately the piston TDC for timing the cams. I can find them in the states but the shipping makes it too expensive. Does anyone know where to find one in the UK!
I would like to find one that is long and has the thread along the whole length making it useable in various engines. Before anyone suggests using an old spark plug, I will do that if no other correct tool can be found. Glenn
 
tell me what dimensions you would like, how much hanging down below the spark plug sholder, and how much above?
I have a small "tee" welded on my own one, so as to be able to easily screw it in and out, without requireing a spanner.
CLEM
 
An old plug with just about any length of rod[within reason] will suffice.Weld or solder the piece in a cleaned up shell or if you want to get fancy you could thread the inside of the shell to allow adjustability.
All it needs to do is provide a positive stop for the piston so you can establish true TDC with the degree wheel.
 
Buy one of these, slide out the middle, then put a long M6 screw (or bit of studding) through the middle, then put a nut either side to lock everything together and set the length.

Round off the end of the studding you put against the piston to avoid scratching.

http://www.sammymillerproducts.co.uk/527

HTH, Paul H
 
G'day Glenn

I can make you one of these if you like. Made a couple for mates a while back. I put a little plastic tip on 'em so as not to damage the piston.

Cheers,
Cam
 

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Cheers Cam I will take you up on your offer as that's exactly what I need. Let me know how much I owe you. Glenn
 
Hey Cam, if your going to make one then you may as well make two!! Been thinking about making one for a while to check my TDC for when I'll be dialling in my axtell cams in the new year.
Let me know if your interested
Cheers
Rob
 
Me and my big mouth (er - keyboard?)

I'll have to have a scrounge around in my junk for some dead spark plugs and some threaded rod. I'll get back to you. I hope you're not in a hurry.
What cost? It's only recycling of a bit of junk and spending some time to make 'em. Although a million bucks would come in handy if you're feeling generous  ;)

Cheers,
Cam
 
Gawd! Anyone else?

I've got plenty of M8 threaded rod (right size to fit fown the inside of a gutted spark plug) but no spare spark plugs. I'll have to go rummaging in the rubbish tin at the car mechanic's workshop just down the street. It's OK, he takes pity on me and throws me a few scraps from time to time.

Cheers,
Cam


 
Good onya Cam, what else are you going to do with all that spare Tasmanian time!! I'd do it myself but I'm up to my elbows in fibreglass/resin making the molds for the Carbon Tank. No hurry on my part, still have to drop the motor, barrel/head work, and get it back together, then I'll have ago at the Cams, factor in Walpole time that  means sometime around easter!!.
Cheers
 
Has the world gone mad? Are we really discussing the posibility of shipping old spark plugs from Tasmania to the UK? Fer gawds sake it's ten minutes work to make one.
I reckon if you aren't capable of knocking up a positive stop device out of an old spark then you probably shouldn't be attempting to do doing whatever job you were going to do with it ! :D :D :D
 
:D :D :D

I must admit, the same thought crossed my mind Bob.

It's not hard to bash the guts out of an old plug and shove a bolt up it.

Cheers,
Cam

PS: This is just so I don't get swamped with requests. I'll still do it for those who have asked.
 
Cam, Bob is right shipping half way round the world seems stupid so I will use your design and knock one up using a friends lathe. Glenn
 
Dellortoman said:
:D :D :D

I must admit, the same thought crossed my mind Bob.

It's not hard to bash the guts out of an old plug and shove a bolt up it.

Cheers,
Cam

PS: This is just so I don't get swamped with requests. I'll still do it for those who have asked.

Could you please make me 20 and paint them in various bright colours so that they will appeal to the punters on Ebay. (just joking)
 
OK Glenn, I'll chuck out the one I just made for you  ;)

Nah, only joking. I didn't make any yet. However, while rummaging around last nite, I found a couple I prepared earlier from long reach plugs. Must have made them for people who never collected them (buggered if I know who - I've made a bundle of 'em over the years). So if you still want one I can chuck it in the mail. Postage for small items to UK is about $15 I think.

I'll send one to Motoddrob as it's only domestic mail between Tassie and WA.


If you have access to a lathe, it's dead easy.

The easiest way to get the ceramic bit out of the spark plug is to put the plug in the lathe with the ceramic end sticking out (you can grip it by the hexagonal part in a 3-jaw chuck and it'll be centred well enough) then machine off the top edge of the metal part where it crimps over a shoulder on the ceramic core. Be careful not to hit the ceramic core with the cutting tool though. That stuff is as hard as the hobs of hell and will take the edge off your cutting tool before you know what's happened. You may want to do the final bit with a file or hacksaw just to be safe if it isn't your lathe.

Once you've gotten rid of the crimp, just chop off the earth electrode and bash the centre electrode and ceramic core out from the bottom. You'll be left with the tubular metal part of the plug.

A minor issue is that the hole through the metal tube is stepped from about 12mm diameter at the top to 7mm at the bottom end. That's why you can see a plastic sleeve in the top end of my spark plug tool. It's just there to keep the central bolt  er, well... central.

If you drill and tap the inside to M8, the thread will pick up a few mm of the metal part at the bottom end of the plug.

My advice would be to use a short reach plug, just so it's quicker to screw in and gives a greater range of depth adjustment on the central bolt.

Cheers,
Cam
 
Cheers Cam.
I was wondering how to get the ceramic bit out. Yesterday between coats of polyester on the molds I fucked around with an old plug but only got as far as smashing off the ceramic and was left wondering how you got the rest of it out. It certainly is bloody hard, flatened the end of my centre punch trying to chip out the remainder. Ended up putting it on the shelf in the too hard basket!! excuse the pun.
 
http://shop.ebay.de/i.html?_nkw=Kolbenstopper+(M14%2C+M+14%2C+14mm)&_sacat=0&_odkw=Kolbenstopper&_osacat=0&_trksid=p3286.c0.m270.l1313

32 offerings - at least one should be able to send it outside Germany - no?

cheap as chips, but shipping can kill...
 
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