750 - Starter Motor - Finish?

Haggis

Haggis

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Hey young bucks.

Just about every 750 starter motor I have had in my hand has had a lick of paint during its life.

Can someone post a pic, or give some words on what the factory finish was please? Paint colour, gloss/matt/silk, etc, etc. Did it change over the lifetime production run?

I need to get one done in a bob-on factory way.

Cheers, Paul
 
Can't guarantee it was the factory finish, but suspect it was as it was very scruffy and sanding a trial area didn't reveal anything under it. My '71 SF was a satin finish. Appreciate you want a better solution, but in case no one else provides a RAL code, I found Halfords silver wheel spray was a close off the shelf match. HTH

Cheers Robin
 
Haggis said:
Hey young bucks.

Just about every 750 starter motor I have had in my hand has had a lick of paint during its life.

Can someone post a pic, or give some words on what the factory finish was please? Paint colour, gloss/matt/silk, etc, etc. Did it change over the lifetime production run?

I need to get one done in a bob-on factory way.

Cheers, Paul
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Might have to contact Nippon Denso - who made it!! Good luck with that ...
 
The Nippon Denso starter had a satin silver finish, common steel wheel silver is a rather good match. I apply a clear coat to make it more durable, but that will yellow with time, just as the originals did!

piet
 
Haggis,

I could supply NOS bodies complete with field windings if required. These are in the stock N-D factory finish.

piet
 
Tippie said:
But the generator is Bosch. Probably much like the ones the Brits sourced from their enemy for the fighter biplanes in WW1.
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I thought the starter on biplanes, was a bloke in overalls swinging off a propeller. I’ve seen the movies, the pilot jumps in flicks a switch, gives the overall clad bloke the thumbs up and overall boy spins the prop.

The movies never show overall boy doing a Jack Newton, at which time the pilot would have called out…. This plane needs a new starter!
 
The starter the 750 twin uses is from a Honda S800 car which had a 790cc four cylinder motor. The starter is definitely not BOSCH.

Now as for it being Nippon Denso, maybe, I would not bet on this. Some of the electrical parts on the S800 were Mitsuba who also made starter motors at the time. Many later model Honda cars used Mitsuba starters.

Most ND starters of the 1960's had the starter solenoid on the starter whereas Mitsuba did not.

So if I had to guess, the Laverda starter was made by MItsuba. Attached is a photo for a S800 starter saying it is Mitsuba.

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The Laverda starter was definitely supplied by Nippon Denso. There are ND stamps on various internal components, I have NOS bodies with field windings in their original ND packaging.

Not uncommon to find two almost identical items from different manufacturers used by another. Happens all the time in the automotive industry, the reason why a VIN has to be supplied for each and every spare parts order, no matter how small. Reckon Honda was already in a position to dictate exactly what they wanted from their suppliers, instead of making do with what was available.

piet
 
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sfcpiet said:
Reckon Honda was already in a position to dictate exactly what they wanted from their suppliers, instead of making do with what was available.
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I agree.

One of our large Italian machine manufacturers used Festo pneumatic components (in the main, another local brand as well, in some areas).

I went to Festo Australia with a sample of what I required as a replacement. Festo assured me, the part, although Festo branded, was not available. And one Festo guy was sure it wasn’t even a Festo part.

A quick email to the equipment manufacturer and the response was: Festo makes that to our specifications, you need to order only from us.

I suppose, if you’ve got the clout, and proposed volume …..
 
chrisk said:
I agree.

One of our large Italian machine manufacturers used Festo pneumatic components (in the main, another local brand as well, in some areas).

I went to Festo Australia with a sample of what I required as a replacement. Festo assured me, the part, although Festo branded, was not available. And one Festo guy was sure it wasn’t even a Festo part.

A quick email to the equipment manufacturer and the response was: Festo makes that to our specifications, you need to order only from us.

I suppose, if you’ve got the clout, and proposed volume …..
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Exclusive rights are part of the deal. These usually expire after a while, the manufacturer can then really cash in on his investment by going public.

piet
 
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