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From 1998 ......... Having grown tired of sticking the Triumph badge on his new range of bikes , John ( " I just sat on it , honest " ... ) Bloor finds a new use for that tube he nicked off the ass - embly line .....

Cartoonist / Yamaha Martini XS1100 fairing designer / Hesketh and Bloor collaborator John Mockett once said that when Tony Blair , as Prime Minister , decided to visit the Triumph factory , reclusive and publicity shy Bloor quickly exited the factory by the back door , and spent the rest of the day in the shed at the bottom of Mockett`s garden .........

" The Devil will find work for idle hands to do .... " / " Who left the door open and let the Devil in ? " / " He who sups with the Devil needs a long spoon " ... etc., etc.,etc.........
 
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From 1998 ......... Having grown tired of sticking the Triumph badge on his new range of bikes , John ( " I just sat on it , honest " ... ) Bloor finds a new use for that tube he nicked off the ass - embly line .....

Cartoonist / Yamaha Martini XS1100 fairing designer / Hesketh and Bloor collaborator John Mockett once said that when Tony Blair , as Prime Minister , decided to visit the Triumph factory , reclusive and publicity shy Bloor quickly exited the factory by the back door , and spent the rest of the day in the shed at the bottom of Mockett`s garden .........

" The Devil will find work for idle hands to do .... " / " Who left the door open and let the Devil in ? " / " He who sups with the Devil needs a long spoon " ... etc., etc.,etc.........
I was told by A Triumph design engineer not to ask mr Bloor the same question twice- apparently he turned down an idea that was regurgitated by the same bloke a year later- went off like a Roman candle!
More importantly- How do you glue your buttocks together..
 
I was told by A Triumph design engineer not to ask mr Bloor the same question twice- apparently he turned down an idea that was regurgitated by the same bloke a year later- went off like a Roman candle!
More importantly- How do you glue your buttocks together..
Sounds like he has something in common with that other Triumph boss , Edward Turner .... who also had a short fuse it seems ......

As for how to glue your buttocks together .... probably best not to ask that question at all !!! ........
 
Sounds like he has something in common with that other Triumph boss , Edward Turner .... who also had a short fuse it seems ......

As for how to glue your buttocks together .... probably best not to ask that question at all !!! ........
When Triumph were designing the Rocket three at a meeting a new inline engine was proposed The capacity had not been finalised. Mr Bloor looks at them and asks what is the biggest bike in production, which from memory was a Honda cruiser of 1800cc..designers were thinking of 1900cc. Bloor asks what would be absolute maximum we could go- about 2500cc - “ well..do that then”. Another time he was being bullshitted by a “ demographic survey” that had cost a lot of money, he was being told that the market was driven by thirty- forty somethings- “ I’ve got a factory full of thirty somethings- have a show of hands in the canteen” Lots of the colour schemes have been chosen by the staff or suggested by the paint shop ( the Tiger stripe tiger was one..) . I told the technical staff that we had a lot of 595s/ Sprints etc coming in with lose battery’s - the strap went over the over the battery allowing it to rock from side to side which worked the terminal lose- I suggested putting the strap the other way to stop this. Got a call to say that in 600 bikes time my strap would be standard fit across the range…didn’t give me a penny🤔. Unlike Edward Turners day- Triumph always asked us what we thought - tech guys were very much if it works we will do it.
 
When Triumph were designing the Rocket three at a meeting a new inline engine was proposed The capacity had not been finalised. Mr Bloor looks at them and asks what is the biggest bike in production, which from memory was a Honda cruiser of 1800cc..designers were thinking of 1900cc. Bloor asks what would be absolute maximum we could go- about 2500cc - “ well..do that then”. Another time he was being bullshitted by a “ demographic survey” that had cost a lot of money, he was being told that the market was driven by thirty- forty somethings- “ I’ve got a factory full of thirty somethings- have a show of hands in the canteen” Lots of the colour schemes have been chosen by the staff or suggested by the paint shop ( the Tiger stripe tiger was one..) . I told the technical staff that we had a lot of 595s/ Sprints etc coming in with lose battery’s - the strap went over the over the battery allowing it to rock from side to side which worked the terminal lose- I suggested putting the strap the other way to stop this. Got a call to say that in 600 bikes time my strap would be standard fit across the range…didn’t give me a penny🤔. Unlike Edward Turners day- Triumph always asked us what we thought - tech guys were very much if it works we will do it.
Seems he had a pretty clear idea of what he wanted , and how to go about things ...... just best not to disagree with him , maybe ... ! ...

Being in charge of a large house building company gives you a good grounding in any business venture you decide to participate in , whether it`s making motorcycles , or making washing machines , I guess ........

Although Edward Turner did have a reputation of being difficult to communicate with ( to the extent of very few people daring to question his decisions at all ) , he did have an inbuilt ability to understand what appealed to young motorcyclists , witnessed by his re invention of the Triumph singles range in the mid `thirties , re naming them Tiger 70 ; 80 ; and 90 , to reflect their top speeds ........ and the success of his Triumph twins , especially over in the USA , during the `fifties and `sixties .........

To most enthusiasts , a Triumph was a motorcycle designed and built by Edward Turner at his factory in Coventry ...... and that was that ........

An interesting insight into his personality was a story told by Bert Hopwood ....... There had never been much in the way of industrial strife at Meriden , but there was a period when the workforce were becoming increasingly uneasy about some management decisions that were being taken ......

During all his time at Meriden , Turner had never once met the Union shop stewards , and obviously they had never had any direct dealings with him .......

In an effort to try to head off any possible confrontation , Hopwood suggested a meeting between Turner and the Union shop stewards , which surprisingly , Turner agreed to ......

Both sides started off with feelings of suspicion toward each other ....... but Turner soon got into his groove , talking passionately about the thing which was dearest to his heart ( ie The Triumph Engineering Company Limited ) , and everyone left the meeting with all their fears allayed .......

You see , he could do it if he tried .........
 
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Sanvenero ...... GP winners in 1982 in the 125cc and 500cc classes ........ The 500 was easily faster than Virginio Ferrari`s and Randy Mamola`s works Suzukis in a straight line , but handled like a pig on stilts in the corners , probably due to being a bit on the porky side , weight wise ....... and the engine sitting high in the frame ...... and according to the riders , it was rather lacking on pick up out of the corners ...... probably the high ( 138 kg without fuel ) weight didn`t help ....... Used Hitachi ignition , and a Yamaha OW53 gearcluster ......

Picture shows more compact engine for the `83 season in the foreground ..... trouble was , Emilio Sanvenero ran out of money at the end of `82 .......

In an ideal world , Emilio and Massimo would have done a deal , put this engine in a beam frame , and stuck a Laverda badge on the tank ...... Better than messing around with Hildagos and so on ......
....... Who cares that it would drink petroil , and need re building every 2000 miles , it would be a worthy successor to the Jota ...... ( the 350 / 487 or whatever Lesmo was never going to cut it as a performance two - stroke ) ........and if Suzuki RG500 used prices are anything to go by , it still be worth a small fortune today ...... ( Over to you , Paul ....... ;) ..... ) ..........

Just imagine ...... a crackley , rattley , smokey , totally out of control Laverda containing real Grand Prix DNA .......... If Laverda was on the way out , then better to go out with a bang , rather than a whimper .......

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"1983 ads ........ when a Jota was worth more than a 900SS .."
its highly likely that I bought that bike, because I dont remember seeing one as cheap, I got it for 1600GBP rode it for about 3 months, even whent to Toddys emporium on it (and didnt get ragged rotten! he quite liked it and agreed with the bargain price) but then sold it on for about a monkey more, nice deal, didnt like the bike, kickstart was very awkward, I found it felt "very long" as though the front wheel got anywhere 2 seconds before the rest and the steering was extremely heavy, no where to put anything so dissapointed bunny (and a stupid one at the time) sold on.
CLEM
 
I found it felt "very long" as though the front wheel got anywhere 2 seconds before the rest and the steering was extremely heavy,
CLEM
I remember in an interview , Paul Smart saying his Imola winning 750SS worked well at that circuit , with it`s fast flowing bends ( at the time ) ...... but he found the bike , with it`s long wheelbase and steering head angle , would push the front end ( understeer ) alarmingly at other circuits .......

I always liked the look of the 750 Sport , with it`s yellow paint and black engine cases ...... you can pick up quite a nice one for £ 35,000 or so , if you feel like shopping at Made In Italy Motorcycles ...... :) ..........
 
In '75, I was wrangling over which motorcycle to buy, when a guy came in to the shop with a 900SS. It was one of the contenders on my list.
He insisted that I take his out and "wring its neck".
It felt much more stable and "planted" than my 850 Commando, but the 'Vaguelier' clocks, crappy 'scooter' switches, rain collecting bellmouth and, especially, the single seat, made me realise that the Laverda was the only real choice.
So, I guess, I owe the 900SS, and its Owner, a debt of gratitude for steering me in the right direction.

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I remember in an interview , Paul Smart saying his Imola winning 750SS worked well at that circuit , with it`s fast flowing bends ( at the time ) ...... but he found the bike , with it`s long wheelbase and steering head angle , would push the front end ( understeer ) alarmingly at other circuits .......

I always liked the look of the 750 Sport , with it`s yellow paint and black engine cases ...... you can pick up quite a nice one for £ 35,000 or so , if you feel like shopping at Made In Italy Motorcycles ...... :) ..........
I gave one needing restoring at less than €5000 a miss less than 10 years back.
I also gave a 750 SS with 10 000 km on the clock a miss.
And a works 750 Guzzi.
I've been reasonable for a long time now.

I sold my 750 GT for €1800 to help finance the SFC quite a while back now.

Paul
 
In '75, I was wrangling over which motorcycle to buy, when a guy came in to the shop with a 900SS. It was one of the contenders on my list.
He insisted that I take his out and "wring its neck".
It felt much more stable and "planted" than my 850 Commando, but the 'Vaguelier' clocks, crappy 'scooter' switches, rain collecting bellmouth and, especially, the single seat, made me realise that the Laverda was the only real choice.
So, I guess, I owe the 900SS, and its Owner, a debt of gratitude for steering me in the right direction.

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I did about the same thing with a MHR in 81.
I was hesitating between the 2. Bought the 3CL.
The MHR would have been no good as a ride to work hack on winter roads. All my bikes have been ride to work hacks, day in, day out.

Paul
 
I commuted on mine, in London, for about five years.
10 years on the 3CL until I felt the need for something lighter and more maneuverable on slippery winter roads. After having thought about a BMW, I was reasonable and bought a Gilera Saturno on which I commuted another 10 years doing 100 000 km.
Paul
 
All the Ducatis from that time had slow steering and incredible high speed stability, needed a vastly different riding style thsn the common flexi-bikes of the era. A 900SS almost won the six hour at Amaroo so they could be hustled quick around tight tracks no worries. I clicked with those Ducatis from day one but their engine longevity was way too poor, but great earners for service mechanics.
 
In '75, I was wrangling over which motorcycle to buy, when a guy came in to the shop with a 900SS. It was one of the contenders on my list.
He insisted that I take his out and "wring its neck".
It felt much more stable and "planted" than my 850 Commando, but the 'Vaguelier' clocks, crappy 'scooter' switches, rain collecting bellmouth and, especially, the single seat, made me realise that the Laverda was the only real choice.
So, I guess, I owe the 900SS, and its Owner, a debt of gratitude for steering me in the right direction.

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Hippy mate of mine had one and let me ride it when I was 18! It felt long, clutch dragged and had the turning circle of lorry. We went to the Hammersmith Odeon to watch Motörhead and he parked it on the steps outside of the main entrance - wouldn’t be able to do that now and come back to it. It was just a Ducati then, always parked on the road overnight in Ealing. I also remember a Duckhams rep bout one new and ran it on green”Q” instead of the prescribed mono grade- his didn’t have crank problems..
 
Left my Tiger Cub outside the Scotchman and His Pack pub back in 1970 , when myself and a mate went to see BB King / Fleetwood Mac at the Colston Hall , in Bristol ......... returned to find some bastard had slit the leopard skin ( plastic ) seat cover ...... soon got over it though ........
 
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