Are there any A2 compliant Laverdas?

Alzero

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It seems that when we settle in France in October my Florida automobile driving license will transfer directly over to a French one with no test or exam. However my motorcycle endorsement will not. That means I will have to start with an A2 level for two years.

I’m trying to investigate what sort of interesting 35kw bikes are out there. So far Ive seen the Aprilia 457s, the Moto Guzzi V7, the Triumph 400. Also the BMW R69S! Are there any others that are somewhat interesting and out of the ordinary? I’m not looking for a long distance tourer, nor a full on sport bike. But I have no objections to a classic or older machine. Is a 500 Laverda compliant?
 
So you cannot transfer an International Licence or renew it while "travelling" so to say, Sovereign Citizens are not included. How do those long-term World Traveller bloggers manage?
 
piranha-bro2 said:
Bizarre! How long have you held a m/cycle licence? Guessing a 500 Lav will definitely qualify.
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I’ve had an M/C endorsement for nearly 50 years! There are only a few American states whose driving license is acceptable to France. Purely by chance, one of them is Florida. California where I’ve lived much of my life and did most of my riding does not meet their standards.

It’s a moot point anyway, to get a motorcycle license I’ll need to start all over again AFAIK and that means two years on an A2.

The International Drivers Permit is simply a translation of one’s existing license that complies with an International treaty. It has no meaning without the original that it represents. It is valid for two years and is issued by the local automobile club. We had my SIL go down with copies of our licenses and photos and get new ones which we now are in our possession.

Since we will be resident in France we are required to obtain French licenses after a certain time period. I am trying to decide if I want to start the clock now or wait as long as possible. My Florida license is valid for two more years and is renewable online for eight more. I will have to surrender it to the French authorities so I’m thinking of applying online for a duplicate after I renew to use when we return to the US to pack and ship.
 
While your travelling, say you still in OZ
See if the frogs recognise an OZ license then you could acquire a OZ license as we recognise US licenses.
 
We have LAMs, learner-approved motorcycles in Oz, it's a list of bikes with a specific Power to Weight ratio so leaners don't end up splatterfying themselves with Bussas before they know a Front brake won't launch you over the bars the first time it's pressed. There is a time limit, you're only allowed a LAMs-rated bike, and you display a rear plate with a Red or Green P for Provisional Licence. Can you update a driver's License at your country's Embassy if it expires while you're travelling? It's an expensive time time-consuming process getting a Full Oz Bike license, probably the same in most countries. There must be a loophole to bypass the learner system for migrating old riders, surely.
 
Funny story, Casey Stonner had won dozens of Australian Flat Track Championships and I think had come 2nd in the World 250cc World Championships before applying for his Road Bike Licence. L Plates for Cassey, just like everyone else
 
Vince said:
We have LAMs, learner-approved motorcycles in Oz, it's a list of bikes with a specific Power to Weight ratio so leaners don't end up splatterfying themselves with Bussas before they know a Front brake won't launch you over the bars the first time it's pressed. There is a time limit, you're only allowed a LAMs-rated bike, and you display a rear plate with a Red or Green P for Provisional Licence. Can you update a driver's License at your country's Embassy if it expires while you're travelling? It's an expensive time time-consuming process getting a Full Oz Bike license, probably the same in most countries. There must be a loophole to bypass the learner system for migrating old riders, surely.
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Drivers licenses in America are done at the state level not the Federal. And with the current administration I doubt there is anyone working at the Embassy anymore.
 
Norway is part of the EU road and licence system. When I moved here I was only allowed a car licence without starting from scratch. My motorbike and the other endorsements went into the shredder with my Queensland licence. To get the motorbike one I just had to do a riding test in their cones and all the tricks with balance, steering and stopping etc and a road ride with a testing officer. As far as I know that is still the case. I did the test on a large bike and got an open licence. It is worth investigating further if you want to. To get a motorbike licence from scratch here requires a huge amount of certified training and costs a fortune,, but I am almost certain that over age 25 or so you can do it all on an open class bike. That said A2 is up to 35kw/47.6hp. Modern bikes that are under that from standard are ok, models can be homologated to comply if they start out with max twice that before being restricted either electronically or mechanically. That is as far as I know how it works.
 
Tippie said:
Norway is part of the EU road and licence system. When I moved here I was only allowed a car licence without starting from scratch. My motorbike and the other endorsements went into the shredder with my Queensland licence. To get the motorbike one I just had to do a riding test in their cones and all the tricks with balance, steering and stopping etc and a road ride with a testing officer. As far as I know that is still the case. I did the test on a large bike and got an open licence. It is worth investigating further if you want to. To get a motorbike licence from scratch here requires a huge amount of certified training and costs a fortune,, but I am almost certain that over age 25 or so you can do it all on an open class bike. That said A2 is up to 35kw/47.6hp. Modern bikes that are under that from standard are ok, models can be homologated to comply if they start out with max twice that before being restricted either electronically or mechanically. That is as far as I know how it works.
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According to Google’s ChatGPT bot (I know!) I do not have to retest, just be restricted to the A2 level for the standard period. And I have 12 months from the time I register my residency to do this. I’m leaning toward getting a classic that I would like to keep anyway, irregardless of its hp. Like the R69 or any Earles fork BMW. Single or twin.
 
how about swapping your USA for an English one, then later on swapping the English one for a French one, most of my French relatives have English licenses as well as French, the English licenses use my address. When French relatives have to show a license, they show an English one if in France and a French one if in England, that is getting less and less due to non stopping prosecutions eg Gatso, where the number plate recognises the potential driver. There are still a few Laverdas in Europe that have English registration also using my address, that number is dwindling due to Brexit, but one bike (a Chott) was Norwegian registered for 30 years, before the owner could get a Norwegian plate, no one seemed to mind. There is a bare Jota frame for sale at present in Southern Norway, it has English registration, I wonder if its on the UK stolen list???

I am seriously making moves to buy my next car, probably a Merc in the 20-30 grand mark IN FRANCE! left hand drive doesnt bother me, I actually like it, especially in country lanes a lot of which are around here. I can use a family members address for insurance and rego, and obtain a French license (which I dont have) and sidestep the robbing road tax here in UK, (no road tax in France) plus the MOT is every two years and it might dodge me a few speeding and parking tickets as well.
CLEM
 
Whatever, you'll need to deal with French administration, which is.....an administration with a large book of rules that most of its employees don't know.
Paul
 
Alzero said:
However my motorcycle endorsement will not. That means I will have to start with an A2 level for two years.
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The list of 35kw bikes you can choose from for your A2 license is comprehensive, new, or classic. Two years is nothing to wait unless you have a bigger bike already and you are eager to ride it in France. I would avoid all the "balagan" and get the A2 license and ride, 2 years is a blink. Bureaucracy sucks.
 
Paul Marx said:
Whatever, you'll need to deal with French administration, which is.....an administration with a large book of rules that most of its employees don't know.
Paul
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There are many things I am looking forward to about living in France. The bureaucracy is NOT one of them! Oh well, it could be worse: we could move to Italy….
 
Steve G. said:
Florida to France.

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Florida is only a nominal address: that’s where our mail service is located. We have never actually lived there beyond a few months mooring in various cities when we lived on a boat and wintered there. We strongly identify as Californians. Even more so these days as the rest of the country has moved in a different direction.
 
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