Atlas mirrors

Shouldn’t they be flipped upside down? Or do you keep them up for cornering?
Yes, they will touch the ground 🤣
When you flip them upside down, you will look to your arm.
And you have to keep your eyes further away from the road than normal mirrors.
 
A few years ago I thought I could get around the problem of poorly functioning mirrors on my Jota by using a rear-view helmet.

I road-tested of those "Reevu" motorcycle helmets. They have a view port above the front opening that contains a bunch of optical gubbins that allows you to see out of a little window in the back of the helmet. Seemed like a good idea but the optics were pretty rubbish. The view was distorted and the focus wasn't very good. It was hardly an improvement on the bike's mirrors so I didn't buy it. I still think it's a good idea, but needs a bit of development in the optics department. I reckon they need to team up with a manufacturer of binoculars.

There's also the X1 Cross helmet that uses a rear view camera and a heads-up display so you can see what's behind you. Never seen one of those in the flesh so can't comment on their functionality, although it seems to me an overly high-tech solution for a simple problem. Online reviews are a bit mixed.

I reckon rear view helmets are at best only a supplement to mirrors. Not a replacement. I don't reckon a rear view helmet would obviate the legal requirement for mirrors fitted to the bike anyway.

I ended up getting some Oxford bar-end mirrors that gave a good view past my arms and don't vibrate much at all. Link here: Oxford mirrors.
Not long after fitting the Oxfords, the bike fell off the stand and demolished one of the mirrors. So I bought some cheap Chinese knock-offs on eBay for a fraction of the price that look identical and work just as well. They were so cheap I bought two sets so I'd have plenty of spare parts if that happens again. Of course it hasn't so I still have the spare set.

The obvious negative point with bar-end mirrors is that they make the bars wider. That can be an issue if you do a lot of lane filtering. Also, because they stick out beyond anything else, they're always getting bumped out of alignment when walking past the bike in the garage (my garage is a bit cramped - too many bikes). There's also the falling over issue mentioned above.

I presume Atlas bars are quite a bit wider than Jota bars, so the bar-end solution may not be practical. I can imagine them getting wiped out on trees if you take the bike off road.
 
A couple of months back, I bought a Carpride Handlbar Screen to use via Bluetooth to do Navagation and Music. One dialled in, pun, it proved fantastic. By far the best screen to easily see in bright sunlight, fully waterproof and allowing me to keep my phone safe in a pocket or tank bag. I bought a pretty basic 5-inch model for just under $300oz. My phone doest suport voice commands, but if it did, I could completely control this device by voice alone. The latest ones have 2 new features, side radar alerts just like the latest BMWs and Ducatis that detect blind spot cars and foreward and the point HERE, rear-mounted cameras. I think there's about $700oz. Well, overkill for my needs, but it's a bloody impressive gadget for well cheaper than a close to 40k Euro bike.
https://carpuride.com/products/carpuride-w702-plus-motorcycle-stereo-supports-app-installation
 
If you want something cheap but still pretty good, take a look at Aliexpress....
I bought this extra for my RGS because in the Vitaloni Californian you can only see your elbows...

Thank you but AliExpress is on my boycott list.

A bar end mirror of than design will just not work with Atlas... Despite have only done about 2,000 miles so far I would be on my 3rd pair of mirrors :o Learning off-road riding skill would be better on a much, much lighter bike!
 
It's not so much the actual weight; it's the tank size and placement that are the major issues. It's a 25-litre tank, and it's right up high, get the bike just slightly past a lean and its impossable to get it back without a good solid foot dab, add in its seat height with even close to a correct rear sag, and you need to be David Knight, well over 6ft and an AAAplus Enduro rider to cope. Correct rear SAG ends up with a seat height of well over 850mm, closer to 900mm, which, with it set to 1/3 of its full 200mm travel. I am reducing the rear SAG back to fully flat footed to suit my 5 11 and running at half tank before doing anything, even remotely hard off-road on mine and not even then at my age. That's doing single track on the pegs, just not happening. Gravel roads are really fun on mine.
 
I weighed my Atlas with a full tank on the local council weight bridge, and it came in at 200kg. Water weighs 1kg per litre, fuel is similar, so absent 25 kg of high-mounted fuel, that means my Atlas comes in at 175kg, which is pretty reasonable for a 600cc twin. More modern bikes with big tanks have them mounted way lower in a panner mounting style. Really big advantage to handling. I have been thinking that adding fuel foam like that used in fuel cells might help with slosh in a pashaly-filled tank. The filler hole is tiny, so probably not worth the trouble.
 
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