Balance factor

[Grant]

If you Teflon coat the balls Blair will slide right off the seat in the first corner. 

 

[Laverdalothar]

The moment I typed it and pressed "Post", I wondered already who would be the first to take that up this way...

naaa that's just to make him move easier from one side to the other during fast S-turns... 

 

[Romeo.D]

If the money is no object why nobady try foloving :
Pankel titan conrods or some other producer
REC germany forged pistons they are titan nitrid coated under rings (have them in kawasaki Z excelent some 700? set of 4)
Cilinder sleve nicasil coating
twin spark ignition
oil inyectors wich inyect oil to piston down side for coling
set of good Mikuni or Keihin flat sides

this would bring some power

We bought few years ago : lightened and polished crank with lightened and polished orginal conrods , light cluch bascet and titanium valve springs for ducati bevel from Vee Two australia , excelent work it is Kiwi guy whu lives in Australia , and the prices were OK .
Probably he can do similar for Laverda .

 

[mcnicol]

Maybe even coat gear selector drum and -forks? Phosphate-coat the gears (all modern gear-boxes at Car manufacturers are phosphate coated I just learned...)? There is so much power of the engine lost in friction, you won't believe...

Lothar

I have a spare set of selector drum and forks sitting in plastic bags after being coated with tungsten disulphide. Eventually I'll split my cases and install them, maybe do the gears and shafts as well.
Should be able to keep up with Hayabusas then!

Ken

 

[Vince]

V2 closed a while back

 

[Jotaman]

Shinny 
Top looking job man, with fortune 60 is the lucky number

 

[Ludi Boba]

Project code name: Metal sex!

 

[Davo]

V2 closed a while back

Brooke Henry, one of the original founders of Vee Two, has bought all the machinery back when Vee Two closed and is operating as "Brooke Henry Ducati" from his home in Nannup. Also has an Ebay shop same name. I don't know if he does anything but Duucati however.

 

[Laverdalothar]

Maybe even coat gear selector drum and -forks? Phosphate-coat the gears (all modern gear-boxes at Car manufacturers are phosphate coated I just learned...)? There is so much power of the engine lost in friction, you won't believe...

Lothar

I have a spare set of selector drum and forks sitting in plastic bags after being coated with tungsten disulphide. Eventually I'll split my cases and install them, maybe do the gears and shafts as well.
Should be able to keep up with Hayabusas then!

Ken

sure, no problem.  

Honestly: roughly 30 - 50 % of the power that is produced during detonation is lost on its way through the engine to the rear wheel. Every little part that has less friction, takes less oil with it while moving etc. does reduce this loss and results in more power at the rear wheel. The difference between a 630 and a 520 chain is up to 3 HP at the rear wheel - no joke, I have tested it! Even the difference between using a scotoiler and normal chain grease can be up to 3 HP again (as claimed by the company). Keeping in mind that a scotoiler costs around 100? and a new set of chain, chain wheel and sprocket is roughly 200?, this is a total of 300? for roughly 5-6 HP at the rear wheel (or 50? per HP). That is one of the cheapest tunings you can get (well - besides accurate carb setup and synchronization maybe)... On a standard engine though, the gain will be a bit lower (3-4HP in total I'd say).

coated shifter mechanism makes shifting easier and smoother, which on the track results in faster acceleration as you have less time without acceleration... Believe me, I know that, as my 4th gear does not shift in easily (depending on the revs the engine runs, shifting up requires the lever to be held up for roughly 1 -2 seconds before the gear engages...). As you use the 4th in SPA quite often, this alone slows you down by 4-5 seconds per round... Not that that matters much to ME, as I am not fast anyway, but it might matter to the OZLAVERDA Team, as THEY are...  

 

[redax5]

Lothar,
Spent the day getting various bits ready to go to the coaters tomorrow.
This bin of parts is getting anti-friction treated.

I believe this is what you are talking about.
Intention with this engine is to get everyting possible coated with something that will help it go faster and last longer

 

[redax5]

this bin of parts is getting oil shedding coatings applied

barrels and head are getting thermal dispersant coatings on the outside
head also gets ceramic coatings on the combustion chamber, exhaust ports and backs of the exhaust valves

pretty certain I have covered everything possible with something

Red

 

[Laverdalothar]

wow - if that engine does not last and produce power - which one does?

Top investment, I am curious to the sound, the power development and the results the team comes up with.

Thumbs up, man, that rocks!

 

[redax5]

getting some parts back now so starting to assemble Crispin's new race engine
just in time too, sounds like something let go in the current engine today

one black crankshaft
this is the anti oil shedding coating, looks flash as
need to true it up tomorrow, got to the stage shown in the photo and stopped for a few beers
stared at the black beauty while thinking of what we have forgotten to do

Red

 

[laverdakeith]

Drive side main bearing for one.....


Coating is interesting, looks wet to the touch.


  Keith

 

[KERMIT1200]

Hi Red,
  The Tate Gallery I reckon would give you thousands for that piece of 'black art'

Lovely job,
Andy

 

[redax5]

here is more of our black engine
getting close to joining the cases together
need engine finished in 3 days time

first track day is next Friday
really hope this works

Red

 

[Grant]

Looking good Red!
I guess you are talking about the balance factor used?
Blair will give it the best test possible.
I assume that a balance factor for racing can be quite different to what would be best on the street? More top end, less dawdling?

 

[bob]

Looks very good Red, I was discussing some of these fancy coatings with various specialists at the Raceretro show last weekend- mainly the oil shedding coatings and the heat dispersants. Unfortunately none of the companies flogging the various processes had done any meaningful before and after tests to back up their claims. When you were looking into these coatings did you come across any meaningful data to support the manufacturers claims? They look like a good idea but before I take the plunge and have some of the components in my new race motor treated I would like to see some data.
Bob

 

[Tom Eatman]

The coating buisiness has been around a long time. There is (was?) a company called Swaintech in the USA who does all of this and I'm sure there are a lot more now. Back about 20 years ago all of the bigger race car teams were using this stuff. Regardless if it was Indy, Nascar, or Dragsters. They have (had?) coatings for friction reduction, keep heat where it is, remove heat from where it doesn't need to be, and a bunch more. It's been something I've wanted to try for many years but the two-stroke race kits I was using at the time always showed up at the very last minute so there wasn't any time to do this. And once the season starts you don't have a time budget at all anymore.

Tom

 

[twinweb]

held the conrods while red dropped the topcases on this work of art today-very impressive