Brexit and the consequences

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I've just packed a parcel destined for the UK, what is normally a pleasant and quick procedure has turned into a fucking nightmare!  Exact details regarding post-brexit merchandise traffic haven't been fully disclosed here yet, mainly because it has all happened at such short notice.  I'm certain most details have been agreed upon for quite some time, but for the dithering that has gone on, nothing has been able to be publicized until now.

Instead of stating "obsolete motorcycle parts" for the complete parcel contents, as is the norm for most parts of the world outside the EU, the UK customs declaration stipulates each and every single item to be declared seperately, with individual values and weights!  That means a parcel full of small odds and ends takes up the better part of an hour, just to fill out the declaration.  This is far more extensive than any declaration I've filled out for goods going elsewhere overseas.

Bottom line, sending stuff to the UK has just become totally unviable for me, at least for orders of less than ?500.00.  My pricing policy doesn't include dealing with so much red tape, and I'm not prepared to throw a ?20 note into each and every parcel.  No doubt, other EU suppliers will add a substantial price hike when dealing with UK customers, they don't have anything to give away either. 

Of course, orders placed before Jan 1st will be honoured and processed as usual. 

piet

 
I get quite a bit of stuff from the USA Piet and I don't think that level of bureaucracy applies when sending things to the UK from there so why would the EU be any different?
 
I've sent stuff to all corners of the globe, but the UK now takes the cake...  first time I've been required to declare individual items and state their weights.  The online form is not accepted and simply cannot be printed if these are not included.  Let's wait and see what it entails sending stuff from the UK to the EU...

May be easier if you're sending stuff as gifts, etc.

piet
 
Piet I hope this is not a deliberate ploy by the EU to tie exporters to the UK up in red tape. I?m sure you have sent plenty parts elsewhere in the world and not been faced with the same bureaucracy?
Like Pat, I have bought parts from Oz and North America and not heard of or seen such red tape. I?ve also sent parts to these continents and only required minimal customs declaration description, never had to itemize contents to a ?nuts and washers? level.
Let?s hope this is just a teething issue; we continue to need your services and those of other European suppliers to the UK market👍

Ian
PS I see you posted as I wrote this.
 
sfcpiet said:
I've sent stuff to all corners of the globe, but the UK now takes the cake...  first time I've been required to declare individual items and state their weights.  The online form is not accepted and simply cannot be printed if these are not included.  Let's wait and see what it entails sending stuff from the UK to the EU...

May be easier if you're sending stuff as gifts, etc.

piet

I'm sure that once Germany and maybe the rest of the EU actually accept we're gone that common sense will prevail - I understand that all the ardent remainers are upset - democracy isn't very highly valued in the EU it would seem. I have no doubt that  they'll be loads of whingeing at every chance - but we've gone - Good luck to the EU - very few leavers bear the malice that comes from  the smug- or not so smug now , remainers. No one knew or knows what will happen  as things progress. Have a happy and safe new year to you all. - Regards - Phil
 
My sisters is a QA manger at Bentley which is owned by wv and she has told me that there  procedure for shipping goods to the eu has not changed and the same for incoming?
Will see her tomorrow and ask what's the said procedure

Happy new year everybody
Regards Andy 😁
 
pf1 said:
I get quite a bit of stuff from the USA Piet and I don't think that level of bureaucracy applies when sending things to the UK from there so why would the EU be any different?

... yes it has. The US is now enforcing it's new rules for any o'seas destinations. That's weight / value as well. Even my post-master hates it, all computerised!
 
it seems a controversy is started regarding the name Eurotunnel too.
UK proposes the acronym: HTN (the Hole To Nowhere)...

EU would say yes if it were for both sides  :o
 
Piet I hope this is not a deliberate ploy by the EU to tie exporters to the UK up in red tape.
Customs regulations are set up by the destination country, in this case i.e. UK...
@Piet:
as is the norm for most parts of the world outside the EU
Are you really surprised at that? Seems to me, they only look at other country's norms/regulations
to be sure to handle it differently... :D

Ernesto
 
Ernesto said:
Customs regulations are set up by the destination country, in this case i.e. UK...
@Piet: Are you really surprised at that? Seems to me, they only look at other country's norms/regulations
to be sure to handle it differently... :D

Ernesto

I thought much the same.  Diving headfirst back into the Dark Ages... ::)

I always thought the Germans had invented bureaucracy, the Austrians "improved" it and the Swiss perfected it.  Brits have proved me wrong.  The infamous "one-up-manship" the Brits are renowned for?:D

piet
 
Ernesto said:
Customs regulations are set up by the destination country, in this case i.e. UK...
@Piet: Are you really surprised at that? Seems to me, they only look at other country's norms/regulations
to be sure to handle it differently... :D

Ernesto

I think it?s down to the exporting country to comply with the importation rules of the destination country. How it complies is a matter for the exporting country. What Piet has recently experienced is not the level of administration and declaration previously required by non-EU countries sending goods to the UK, from my experience anyway.
Let?s hope this does not become the norm and gets sorted out.
It?ll be interesting to hear if this is just a German process to make a point over Brexit or if other countries are now experiencing similar administrative burdens sending goods to the UK.
 
I'll let you know on Tuesday, I have a parcel for the UK to send from France.

I think that the main problem is that after more than 4 years, nothing is ready in spite of the gesticulations of some.

At least the British will not be able to blame something perceived as foreign. But who will be to blame after that? It's a slippery slope.

Paul
 
Paul Marx said:
I'll let you know on Tuesday, I have a parcel for the UK to send from France.

I think that the main problem is that after more than 4 years, nothing is ready in spite of the gesticulations of some.

At least the British will not be able to blame something perceived as foreign. But who will be to blame after that? It's a slippery slope.

Paul

I voted out and I am happy to be out. It's better for Europe to not have a reluctant member state too.
 
So far paperwork going out is pretty basic for low level items,it is more the lack of flights making delivery much slower due to Covid..
 
Probably a good idea to look at this thread  https://www.laverdaforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,94841.0.html - I gave up on page 21 - post 308 as the hatred and bile that started to come out was IMHO not really the thing I wanted to read on a motorcycle forum - this thread is becoming the same old shite with the same now very sore losers. I have lots of friends in Europe and don't want to get into a foolish slagging match here. No one knows what will transpire - the EU hope we wont be successful for obvious reasons - I hope we will as I live here. - regards - Phil
 
phil37 said:
Probably a good idea to look at this thread  https://www.laverdaforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,94841.0.html - I gave up on page 21 - post 308 as the hatred and bile that started to come out was IMHO not really the thing I wanted to read on a motorcycle forum - this thread is becoming the same old shite with the same now very sore losers. I have lots of friends in Europe and don't want to get into a foolish slagging match here. No one knows what will transpire - the EU hope we wont be successful for obvious reasons - I hope we will as I live here. - regards - Phil

You're quite right Phil, this thread will lead nowhere and will only generate animosity..
But I quite honestly don't think the EU hopes anything at all concerning the UK, neither one way or t'other.

Paul
 
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