Clever people this way please: high tech wiring tidy-up.

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Grant said:
I ended up with 5 more relays AFTER I fitted the m-Unit.
One for the starter as the one on the m-Unit is not up to the job, and the rest for lights as I wanted to retain Off/Park/Flash etc, which the m-Unit can't handle. It assumes lights on permanently, no parking light and so on.
If you want to fit stripped down wiring to a custom or something then it is great, but it is not really straightforward to incorporate it into otherwise standard wiring on one of our clunkers.
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Hi Grant,

I think the new version can. All you need is different switches than you would normally use on the bike.

and yes, that is what its for: reducing the wiring, not just replacing the fuse box or so  ;)
 
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaargh!
You only need half a dozen wires on a Laverda, why add an electronic thingy.
My Laverdas all have the fuses they left the factory with.

Armchair bikers?

Paul
 
Paul Marx said:
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaargh!
You only need half a dozen wires on a Laverda, why add an electronic thingy.
My Laverdas all have the fuses they left the factory with.

Armchair bikers?

Paul
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Thats about the size of it  :D
 
Hi,
(announce) first of all to avoid being despised, I have the ORIGINAL wiring and won't change it
One for the starter as the one on the m-Unit is not up to the job
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So, who would expect a 70A relay integrated in the box?

I remember Piero saying that they created motorcycles that everybody could
modify to his own needs/taste........

Ernesto

 
Pfft, well a Can-bus BMW (now who do I know who has one of them..?) has fewer wires than just about any Laverda.

I don't see what's wrong with trying to come up with something a bit different- it's a prototype idea is all, not the end of civilization (or points iginition).  Here's one of the armchair bikers:

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And yes, he fell off his GS.  We all do.
 
Trying not to be negative here but as I understand many of these systems rely on every component working within its recognised parameters.
I work for companies producing seabed seismic surveys, sonar monitoring systems, ROV survey and inspection and shipboard stress and load monitoring equipment.
The most common failures they suffer are not the central control units but the various input and output devices and their relationships with each other.
Frexample:
Audi A2 jam packed with all manner of clever doohickeys.
Alarm goes off at 2am, get up press remote, alarm resets, flashes indicators at me, no worries.
3 days later hazard flashers on last of battery when I get up. Open doors manually and alarm eats last of battery charge. Climb through car and dismantle boot to remove battery and recharge. Open double floor on passenger side to check all connections to main computer,OK, all fuse boxes and relays,OK. Remove covers on all door locks to lock them all manually. Reinstall battery, check diagnostics for faults, no new faults, reset everything to factory base settings. At 4 am alarm goes off again. Checked all circuits and found the fault lay with a relay inside the hazard warning switch. Replaced and has been faultless since. 
 
Paul Marx said:
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaargh!
You only need half a dozen wires on a Laverda, why add an electronic thingy.
My Laverdas all have the fuses they left the factory with.

Armchair bikers?

Paul
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Well Paul, I hope you have enough spare ceramic torpedo fuses with you when you're out and about. I ran into the predicament of not having them with me (dodgy fuse box ate the fuses up) and none of the filling stations along my way on a Sunday had any to sell. I converted to waterproof modern automotive spade fuses  and worry no more. In fact I've not had any issues since I changed over. Modern is not always armchair.....
 
Gerald said:
Well Paul, I hope you have enough spare ceramic torpedo fuses with you when you're out and about. I ran into the predicament of not having them with me (dodgy fuse box ate the fuses up) and none of the filling stations along my way on a Sunday had any to sell. I converted to waterproof modern automotive spade fuses  and worry no more. In fact I've not had any issues since I changed over. Modern is not always armchair.....
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Hi Gerald,

Knowing that the ceramic/plastic fuses would become unfashionable, I've built some stock up. Still have to blow a fuse.
Paul
 
I love the idea! Stretch the envelope of the possible, and able to be retro fitted to our dinosaurs.

Also nice to see MotoGadget M Unit is now on version 2! Even looks like it might handle the starter relay function now.



 
I really like the look of the motogadget V2 in combination with the M-button. That would get rid of the spaghetti factory inside the headlight and do away with the fuse box, start relay, flasher relay.
 
The wiring harness I recently built for the Motodd is amazingly simple, no spaghetti junction, minimal wires, 4 relays plus starter relay. All the wires that head up to the steering head fit into a 12mm dia sheath. Looks pretty neat too and even I understand how it all works.
 
Great thread and very good points made for & against (high-tech) mods; I lean towards maintaining the machine the way it was designed and manufactured not only to retain "character" but also to ensure investment quality. I work on European cars by trade and preserving the originality of a classic is necessary to maintain value & Laverdas are classics...with lots of character. Non-stock mods to cars and bikes is similar to having a tattoo of your girlfriend's name: a problem with the next girlfriend or prospective buyer.
 
IAG said:
Great thread and very good points made for & against (high-tech) mods; I lean towards maintaining the machine the way it was designed and manufactured not only to retain "character" but also to ensure investment quality. I work on European cars by trade and preserving the originality of a classic is necessary to maintain value & Laverdas are classics...with lots of character. Non-stock mods to cars and bikes is similar to having a tattoo of your girlfriend's name: a problem with the next girlfriend or prospective buyer.
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Well, that makes my Motodd almost worthless then :o :D
 
It's really just a gizmo to make it easier to add power feeds for extra circuits and fuses, not a substitute for a properly designed wiring loom.  My GS has a take off for the wife's electric vest, two sets of HID lights and the GPS that are all non factory and some blokes have more than that- LD riders often have 2 GPS units and XFM radios, radar detectors etc. etc.

Using a unit like this or one of the more conventional ones and you only need one feed from the battery and one from a switched feed (the rear light f'rinstance) and then plug in your stuff.  This won't apply to most Laverda owners as they tend not to have extras on their bikes, but in other spheres of biking activity it is common

I plan to fit one of these http://www.fuzeblocks.com/ to the GS to tidy things up- means that it is easy to have the power feeds switched or not.  I just thought it was an interesting idea.  Now, I must go and pile some more coal into the car's boiler, I have to do the shopping later and you need a good head of steam to get across town.
 
Reggie3cl said:
It's really just a gizmo to make it easier to add power feeds for extra circuits and fuses, not a substitute for a properly designed wiring loom.  My GS has a take off for the wife's electric vest, two sets of HID lights and the GPS that are all non factory and some blokes have more than that- LD riders often have 2 GPS units and XFM radios, radar detectors etc. etc.

Using a unit like this or one of the more conventional ones and you only need one feed from the battery and one from a switched feed (the rear light f'rinstance) and then plug in your stuff.  This won't apply to most Laverda owners as they tend not to have extras on their bikes, but in other spheres of biking activity it is common

I plan to fit one of these http://www.fuzeblocks.com/ to the GS to tidy things up- means that it is easy to have the power feeds switched or not.  I just thought it was an interesting idea.  Now, I must go and pile some more coal into the car's boiler, I have to do the shopping later and you need a good head of steam to get across town.
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Have you converted your Laverda to petrol or to be quite up to date, electricity?

Paul
 
Nah, it's got pedals now, very green and up to the minute you know.  Hard work going up hill though...
 
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