Cracked clutch cover 1200TS

Shuggie

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Hi guys
Bit of a set back today, the hydraulic chamber on the clutch slave cylinder cracked big style, big spurt of brake fluid came out...what are my options, I know there's the Redax billet cover and I've messaged him but it 3am Australia time now , will hopefully know soon if he's got any..
Can anyone else point me in the right direction?
 
Keith Nairn does an excellent job of salvaging the originals by installing a modern generic slave cylinder.

Not going to happen over night though...

piet
 
I spoke to Keith straight away, Piet and unfortunately with his workload he's not able to take it on for the moment...

Btw I fitted your fitting and all was good thought I'd fixed it , pull the clutch levers few times, gears selected fine , feeling smug and then pop crack 🤣 🤣😭
 
You can maybe use a cable set up for now? I don't know exactly what you would need but maybe Ian or myself could loan you something? If it's just the sprocket cover I may have one that needs cleaning up.
 
You can maybe use a cable set up for now? I don't know exactly what you would need but maybe Ian or myself could loan you something? If it's just the sprocket cover I may have one that needs cleaning up.
Going on from there I think Keith does a scheme for his hydraulic conversions taking a cable cover in px.
 
I spoke to Keith straight away, Piet and unfortunately with his workload he's not able to take it on for the moment...

Btw I fitted your fitting and all was good thought I'd fixed it , pull the clutch levers few times, gears selected fine , feeling smug and then pop crack 🤣 🤣😭
Where did it crack?

piet
 
You can maybe use a cable set up for now? I don't know exactly what you would need but maybe Ian or myself could loan you something? If it's just the sprocket cover I may have one that needs cleaning up.
I talked to Ian and he's hopeful that he can sort out all the bits for a cable conversion but I asked him to hang fire till I've got an answer from Red and Wolfgang...these things happen 🤷
 
It wasn't where your fitting screws in, it's about an inch or more below the bleed nipple, presumably at the back of the slave cylinder chamber , a half moon semi circular crack from about three o'clock to seven o'clock, Piet
Weakest spot, where they all eventually give up... Good chance you may find some corrosion in there as well due to H2O in the fluid.

Result of fluid leaking past the inlet from the hose and entering between cylinder and housing. Puzzling as to why it should crack AFTER removing the pressure from that area.

piet
 
Weakest spot, where they all eventually give up... Good chance you may find some corrosion in there as well due to H2O in the fluid.

Result of fluid leaking past the inlet from the hose and entering between cylinder and housing. Puzzling as to why it should crack AFTER removing the pressure from that area.

piet
I think it was ready to let go, Piet and providential that it didn't let go a hundred miles from home in the Scottish Highlands where a recovery vehicle chance was next to nil ...

On the plus side I can get all I need to go cable operated , just waiting to hear from Red...

What's your take on the two options, I'm not fixated on original if the cable one improves gear selection and a lighter pull
 
You'll only achieve a lighter pull with a cable if you cut the sprocket cover for a lengthened actuating lever or fit one of those ghastly cranked levers. These both have drawbacks, the actual throwout lift at the clutch is seriosly compromised causing drag and the shift at standstill can turn to a pita, ie, when searching for neutral at traffic lights. Cable adjustment often flies out the window with high engine temps. Finding good quality cables has also become a challenge, maybe learn to make your own?

Hydraulics at least offer a constant, albeit firm movement in stock form, keeping them in top nick can have you chasing your tail for a while... both the M/C and the slave require regular maintenance/replacement of the rubbery bits.

Personally, I prefer the hydraulics, even to the point of converting my 3C to hydraulic with the use of a Magura Hymec clone slave coupled to a generic 14mm M/C. The RGS requires a new slave o-ring after every second season, I just replaced the M/C seals last week, these were about 15 years old... Wifeys' OR600 has just recieved a haydraulic conversion using bits and bobs from the Zane models, only for her to complain lever action is heavier than before. Engaging 1st gear is now but a click instead of the usual clunk. And it now allows neutral to be found again at a standstill, cable adjustment simply didn't allow it over differing engine temps. Guess I'll need to fit a new-fangled radial M/C instead of the classic PS13.

Only mechanical issue I experienced on my 8000km trip last summer to the North Cape on the GTL was a snapped clutch cable. To be fair, it was my own production and I hadn't put enough attention in the nipple movement in the handlebar lever. Only breakdown on wifeys' 500 in almost 40 years ownership was a snapped clutch cable. Nope, don't particularly like cables. ;)

piet
 
I think it was ready to let go, Piet and providential that it didn't let go a hundred miles from home in the Scottish Highlands where a recovery vehicle chance was next to nil ...

On the plus side I can get all I need to go cable operated , just waiting to hear from Red...

What's your take on the two options, I'm not fixated on original if the cable one improves gear selection and a lighter pull
You can change a cable in the Highlands.
Paul
 
Only have bearing support covers in stock, my mate is going to machine 10 standard versions on Monday
 
You'll only achieve a lighter pull with a cable if you cut the sprocket cover for a lengthened actuating lever or fit one of those ghastly cranked levers. These both have drawbacks, the actual throwout lift at the clutch is seriosly compromised causing drag and the shift at standstill can turn to a pita, ie, when searching for neutral at traffic lights. Cable adjustment often flies out the window with high engine temps. Finding good quality cables has also become a challenge, maybe learn to make your own?

Hydraulics at least offer a constant, albeit firm movement in stock form, keeping them in top nick can have you chasing your tail for a while... both the M/C and the slave require regular maintenance/replacement of the rubbery bits.

Personally, I prefer the hydraulics, even to the point of converting my 3C to hydraulic with the use of a Magura Hymec clone slave coupled to a generic 14mm M/C. The RGS requires a new slave o-ring after every second season, I just replaced the M/C seals last week, these were about 15 years old... Wifeys' OR600 has just recieved a haydraulic conversion using bits and bobs from the Zane models, only for her to complain lever action is heavier than before. Engaging 1st gear is now but a click instead of the usual clunk. And it now allows neutral to be found again at a standstill, cable adjustment simply didn't allow it over differing engine temps. Guess I'll need to fit a new-fangled radial M/C instead of the classic PS13.

Only mechanical issue I experienced on my 8000km trip last summer to the North Cape on the GTL was a snapped clutch cable. To be fair, it was my own production and I hadn't put enough attention in the nipple movement in the handlebar lever. Only breakdown on wifeys' 500 in almost 40 years ownership was a snapped clutch cable. Nope, don't particularly like cables. ;)

piet
Piet, many thanks 🙏 👍 your guidance is much appreciated...with my failing slave cylinder the last hundred miles home on Monday were a trial of patience with gear changes accompanied by very notchy and hard action shifts)/grating cog noises and no neutral selection happening at standstill... definitely don't want that happening again 🤞 or an unplanned extended roadside stop being eaten alive by the midges 🤣...
It's very encouraging that Red will have some covers machined early next week and there is also the cable option....
I have an XS650E 1978 roadster and that's cable operated with neutral selection getting hard when hot but I got there with it and it's fine now hot and cold......cost alone is not my primary driver, the TS has been expensive already 😊👍
 
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