Engineering opinion wanted - not truly Laverda related !

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Hi All ? I?ve just bought this ?Magnetic table?  http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/150728689566?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649. On receiving it ? I couldn?t find any means of Magnetising/De-magnetising it - -then realised it must be put on another mag table to do this. As I bought it as a Magnetic table to hold shims etc on my surface grinder and have no other mag table ? it is of no use to me. I contacted seller and was told I should have asked if it was magnetic!!  Before I start complaint procedures I would like to know opinions of engineering orientated members as to whether it is a mag table or wrongly described. There is only the one poor shot of it on the e-bay listing ?  It is a really well made item  and could be of great use if one had a mag table already - I await your comments ? Regards - Phil

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/150728689566?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649

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To me the clue is in the title of the goods described.
If it says magnetic tilting table and it turns out not to be magnetic I would think the goods were wrongly described.
Did it specifically say the table was NOT magnetic?
Can you take it up with Ebay?
 
Tricky one that, they were always called magnetic tables or magnetic blocks when I was working in a toolroom so the "description" is I suppose correct, what you were actualy after was a magnetic chuck. The table is composite brass and steel to allow the pull from a magnetic chuck to pass through and grab the workpiece they come in all shapes and sizes V blocks etc. Guess you will just have to see what the seller says.


    Keith
 
Here's a link to a cheap magnetic chuck http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Chuck-Norris-Quote-Funny-Fridge-Magnet-/250836494002?pt=UK_Collectables_Kitchenalia_RL&hash=item3a670526b2#ht_1152wt_906
 
Davo said:
Here's a link to a cheap magnetic chuck http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Chuck-Norris-Quote-Funny-Fridge-Magnet-/250836494002?pt=UK_Collectables_Kitchenalia_RL&hash=item3a670526b2#ht_1152wt_906
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It looks like the polarised magnet tables we used when I were a lad, has it not got a lever or knob to turn?  Usually on the side but I've seen them underneath.  Maybe it's dropped off?

If not, I'd suggest going and putting it through the sellers window...
 
I have a rectangular mag chuck on my T&C grinder with a permanently attached handle to "switch" it on & off, it would be useless without it....
 
I've had the usual "Eclipse" on/off with handle type and didn't realise that there were any different types that relied on being magnetised by a seperate source. However, unfortunately, Keith has stated  correctly that it is actually also called a magnetic table so I will have to rely on a bit more goodwill from the seller than is apparent at the moment. I'll now start looking for a mag chuck or make sure a table is as I would expect. If anyone here has a use for the tilting table - PM me. Thanks to everyone for all their comments - regards - Phil
 
Now come on Phil...You bought it off a Brummie !!!..Lets be serious here as we have all seen the " Brummagum" screw driver...

You should have asked me to interpret ; ) As I spent many years in the wilds of Aston....

Here's Herman who I rescued from a YTS in Chelmsley Wood many years ago.. You can see how he's coming on but he still adjusts everything with his 6 pound screw driver he nicked from the BSA ..


How did they ever build Spitfires at Castle Brom ???

joe
 

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Hi,

My Dad has asked me to have a look at this thread and give an opinion.

So....

I would say that that is not a magnetic table as per the description.
I believe it is actualy called a transfer table. These are normaly placed on top of a magnetised table and can be rotated around the centre axis so the brass sections are either parrellel or at 90 degrese to each other, this in-turn reduce the 'suction' of the magnet as desired. Transfer blocks are however, usualy used in pairs and in 12 or so years in a toolroom I have seen, but never had a use for an adjustable transfer block.
I don't think this table would have any place in a toolroom as the seller suggests, mainly because angles are normly put onto using sine tables, not a visual indicator.

Hope this is of some use!

Dave, son of Clem  
 
It is described as a magnetic table and yet is not magnetic?  Those 'in the know' would perhaps not be caught out by this, but I would suggest that eBay and about 90% of the population would think otherwise and say it was a wrong description.

Yogi
 
Yogi said:
It is described as a magnetic table and yet is not magnetic?  Those 'in the know' would perhaps not be caught out by this, but I would suggest that eBay and about 90% of the population would think otherwise and say it was a wrong description.

Yogi
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I fully agree with Yogi. I am no engineer but if I read the title and the desription in the advert (which I did) I would believe that it was a magnetic table.

Hope you get a result from the seller Phil

Geoff
 
Well, I guess that the seller didn't really know what he was selling but knew it was a table used in a magnetic context. Most sellers are non professional and many do not know how to describe accurately..At times although not often I have sold something the buyer didn't want once he got it.

I have a policy when I sell stuff on ebay. If the buyer tells me he is unhappy I refund his money first then I telephone them to discuss. I simply wouldn't want somebody to end up with something they don't want...It's rare but when it happens my policy makes life so much easier..Maybe I'm a soft touch but that's the way I do it.

joe
 
Phil,

If you don't get a result from the Seller, you should contact eBay.

My guess is that they would agree that it was an incorrect description and you should get your money back.

Let us know how you go...

Yogi
 
jotajoe said:
I have a policy when I sell stuff on ebay. If the buyer tells me he is unhappy I refund his money first then I telephone them to discuss. I simply wouldn't want somebody to end up with something they don't want...It's rare but when it happens my policy makes life so much easier..Maybe I'm a soft touch but that's the way I do it.

joe
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Let me know when you are listing a Laverda on Ebay Joe!
 
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