Laverda SF
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Laverda SF said:
First start up and ride on my 3C today...some questions by a Laverda newbie
Laverda SF
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Ernesto
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Hey, LaverdaSF.
Obviously you keep quoting yourself.
Strange!
Ernesto
Hey, LaverdaSF.
Obviously you keep quoting yourself.
Strange!
Ernesto
Hi , Very nice machine indeed ! Just a few notes to digest , as far as the yellowing or blueing of the pipes , out here in California we Jet hot coat the pipes inside and out . You can get this process in many colors , black , silver , etc . This process also reduces the overall exhaust temperature by 30% which is very helpful on an AIR COOLED motor . As far as the mixture goes , you're far better to use an infra-red gas analizer to measure and set each carb to proper spec . Most automotive repair shops have this type of tool , so you should check out who close to you has one . Most of the triple Laverdas have a little port on the down pipes for this tool , my RGS 1000 does . As far as detenation goes , some other folks made good suggestions , and I just want to add one more . You may or may not know of the new iridium spark plug technology out there , but if you switch to these type of plugs , you will be pleasantly surprised to how much better your engine will run . It has a much larger flame front that burns more of the fuel during combustion in essence developing more power , give it a try , it's a cheep fix ! I'm by no means an expert on Laverdas , but I do know engine theory as I have been with Rolls Royce / Bentley for over 30 years and I do deal with these and other issues on a daily basis . Good luck and let me know how you make out !
G
Grant
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Lone Wolf, is it possible to have only the inside of the pipes coated?
Not everyone wants a non-chrome finish.
I think only the US had ports on the downpipes for gas analysis.
There have been quite a few negative comments on the forum about the suitability of Iridium plugs on our old clunkers. Seems they only perform best with more high tech engine management systems. I use Gold Palladium plugs wherever possible (for over 25 years) and find them good on triples.
Not everyone wants a non-chrome finish.
I think only the US had ports on the downpipes for gas analysis.
There have been quite a few negative comments on the forum about the suitability of Iridium plugs on our old clunkers. Seems they only perform best with more high tech engine management systems. I use Gold Palladium plugs wherever possible (for over 25 years) and find them good on triples.
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3patC
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Stefan, I'm only a bludger but I would say be careful about constantly re-torquing the head down or you may find the threads pulling out of the cases (like one of mine did)
The early 3C's often leaked oil from porous head catings. I never cured mine but it went like a train so I learned to live with it and no the O ring head gasket didn't cure it.
I never had any base gasket problems though.
The early 3C's often leaked oil from porous head catings. I never cured mine but it went like a train so I learned to live with it and no the O ring head gasket didn't cure it.
I never had any base gasket problems though.
Stefan,
Easier and less messy to remove the silencers, then remove the headers and collector as one piece. Bit fiddly threading it through the centre stand, a second pair of hands does help till you have a bit of practice at it.
Won't find much in the strainer(hopfully).
Pat,
Many Laverdas leak from the head gasket due to protruding cylinder liners, no amount of re-torquing or new gaskets will cure that untill the condition is rectified. Very often, triple heads were diagnosed as warped and were then unnecessarily skimmed, further adding to problems around these heads.
piet
Easier and less messy to remove the silencers, then remove the headers and collector as one piece. Bit fiddly threading it through the centre stand, a second pair of hands does help till you have a bit of practice at it.
Won't find much in the strainer(hopfully).
Pat,
Many Laverdas leak from the head gasket due to protruding cylinder liners, no amount of re-torquing or new gaskets will cure that untill the condition is rectified. Very often, triple heads were diagnosed as warped and were then unnecessarily skimmed, further adding to problems around these heads.
piet
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3patC
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Your are almost certainly correct Piet, to be honest it was more of an annoyance than a real problem. The next triple I had leaked no oil but went like a slug in comparison.
These were the mysteries of Laverda ownership for a callow youth like myself living on bread and water after naively forking out vast amounts for superior hand built italian machines.
Nowadays the good folk on this forum can point you in the right direction in no time at all
Bloody hell I've learned a lot from you guys so thanks!
These were the mysteries of Laverda ownership for a callow youth like myself living on bread and water after naively forking out vast amounts for superior hand built italian machines.
Nowadays the good folk on this forum can point you in the right direction in no time at all
Bloody hell I've learned a lot from you guys so thanks!
andrew112_uk
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drikko said:
Thanks for the tip Drikko. I had not thought of that. I need to take the strainer out next change and was going to take the lot off. I even have a single spare o ring!
Andrew
jotajoe
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Congratulations Stefan...The fruit of many long housr hard work and perseverance.
The moment she bursts into life is a great reward
joe
The moment she bursts into life is a great reward
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sfcpiet said:
Hi Piet
what I have had done on my last two 1200 triple engine rebuilds is have the top of the barrels skimmed to be absolutely sure the tops of the cylinder liners are actually flush, seemed to do the job of making sure the head gaskets sealed.
Paul LeClair
Gerald
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1000/3C_Stefan said:jotajoe said:The moment she bursts into life is a great reward
joe
And it keeps being a great reward to me EVERY time I fire the bike up, Joe. 8) Took the bike out today for a nice ride on a grey faded but not too damp November day. True king of the road feel during these autumn/winter days as most German bikers seem now to run on April to October seasonal regos, but I still prefer to have year round rego on the 3C as well as on my other bikes. No nasty mothballing required either.
Still not sure about the carbie settings. Had them on the vacuum gauges already and they seem running fairly well now, but after cold start (ambient temps around 10?C) the bike needs about first one or two kilometers in city traffic to be ridden with choke to have somewhat of an idle and throttle pick up from low revs. Is this normal?
Regards,
Stefan
Had the same problem on the 3CL, cured by a carb rebuild and painstakingly making sure the choke plungers and rubbers are seated correctly and all plungers travel up and down freely. Vacuum gauges need to be quality items, like Boehm, the Taiwan or China crap is a waste of time and money!
And if you're running Champion spark plugs, good luck :
Laverdalothar
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Oil is (relatively) cheap. If it gives you peace of mind, do it. But more importantly: re-torque the head in time! I would do it before, half way down and in Spain again. Just my 2 cents...
You'll be OK Stefan.
Head off to the sun and change the oil if you get the chance, if you don't, well, tough luck. Not going to blow the motor or even lose thousands of kilometres of use from it, just do it when you arrive home then... the change routine must not be religiously adhered to, especially now while the engine is nice and clean inside. Main thing is the oil does gets changed without having it circulate too often/long with all the crap suspended in it. Changing at 2500km is nice, but 4000km won't do any harm either. But that would be the "safe" limit for me.
Lots of triples out there haven't seen fresh oil for decades, and still run, sort of... : A testimony to their ruggedness, but eventually the repair bill will add up quite nicely.
And leave the torque wrench at home!
piet
Head off to the sun and change the oil if you get the chance, if you don't, well, tough luck. Not going to blow the motor or even lose thousands of kilometres of use from it, just do it when you arrive home then... the change routine must not be religiously adhered to, especially now while the engine is nice and clean inside. Main thing is the oil does gets changed without having it circulate too often/long with all the crap suspended in it. Changing at 2500km is nice, but 4000km won't do any harm either. But that would be the "safe" limit for me.
Lots of triples out there haven't seen fresh oil for decades, and still run, sort of... :
A testimony to their ruggedness, but eventually the repair bill will add up quite nicely. And leave the torque wrench at home!
piet