Front Brake Lines
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Dellortoman
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That's the point I was making Drikko. Why condemn a hose because it's UV shield isn't up to the task when it doesn't need a UV shield in the first place.
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silvo
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Dellortoman said:
Cam,
Have you checked these opinions with a HEL dealer? I think you'll find that all of HEL's fittings are made in-house, in England...... and they are ADR compliant.
Now, I wonder why he's bagging HEL?
Business not going well John? I'm not surprised when you employ back packers to assemble your hoses.
Morison
Dellortoman
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Fair point Morison (silvo)
I was probably getting a bit excited that someone in the industry was prepared to talk to me about the products available. After a couple of weeks of intermittent shopping around and emailing people I was gertting a bit frustrated that everyone was guarding their info like a state secret. John was the first supplier I'd come across who was prepared to have an open and sensible discussion on the available options.
No I haven't spoken to a Hel dealer. It's always good to get a second opinion. Can you offer one? From your comment I'm guessing you know something of this subject.
Cheers,
Cam
I was probably getting a bit excited that someone in the industry was prepared to talk to me about the products available. After a couple of weeks of intermittent shopping around and emailing people I was gertting a bit frustrated that everyone was guarding their info like a state secret. John was the first supplier I'd come across who was prepared to have an open and sensible discussion on the available options.
No I haven't spoken to a Hel dealer. It's always good to get a second opinion. Can you offer one? From your comment I'm guessing you know something of this subject.
Cheers,
Cam
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silvo
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Cam,
There's one in Brisbane.
I started a thread on Stamnas about three years ago when he sent me some oil lines which were assembled by a child with no hands. When I complained he accused me of rooting them myself. Top bloke I gather. He partially refunded my money but refused to accept that they sent me shit in the first place. I have never really appreciated being abused down the phone line, told any damage was my fault and then being hung up on. Got me buggered why he did any of this, all I wanted was a set of oil lines. I'd like to have a talk to him about it one day - face to face.
In the end I made my own lines using Earls parts which is probably what I'd do if I was doing my own brake lines. They have a comprehensive web site and are also very helpful. The bloke who runs it in Australia used to be the AP-Lockheed dealer/importer donkeys years ago so he knows a thing or two.
You'll also find that a lot of car accessory and agricultural dealers sell their own lines. Up here I can go down to the local car parts shop and get lines made up for bugger all. They look like shit but apparently they work. Just have a think about who and what uses these type of lines then ask around. Your an engineer surely you can find someone in Tassie, apart from your mate who's a prick, who can knock them up for you.
Cheers
Chris
There's one in Brisbane.
I started a thread on Stamnas about three years ago when he sent me some oil lines which were assembled by a child with no hands. When I complained he accused me of rooting them myself. Top bloke I gather. He partially refunded my money but refused to accept that they sent me shit in the first place. I have never really appreciated being abused down the phone line, told any damage was my fault and then being hung up on. Got me buggered why he did any of this, all I wanted was a set of oil lines. I'd like to have a talk to him about it one day - face to face.
In the end I made my own lines using Earls parts which is probably what I'd do if I was doing my own brake lines. They have a comprehensive web site and are also very helpful. The bloke who runs it in Australia used to be the AP-Lockheed dealer/importer donkeys years ago so he knows a thing or two.
You'll also find that a lot of car accessory and agricultural dealers sell their own lines. Up here I can go down to the local car parts shop and get lines made up for bugger all. They look like shit but apparently they work. Just have a think about who and what uses these type of lines then ask around. Your an engineer surely you can find someone in Tassie, apart from your mate who's a prick, who can knock them up for you.
Cheers
Chris
Dellortoman
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Hi Chris
I didn't recognise you with your new name. Thanks for your input. Seems the waters are very murky with brake lines. Nobody wants to give a straight answer and the only bloke I've found so far who has put up with all my technical questions is John Stamnas. From your comments, maybe he's not all he seems. Perhaps the cautious way to proceed is to get him to do one set of hoses and see what sort of job he does. As I mentioned earlier, I have 4 bikes to sort, 2 of them not mine. I can live with cock-ups on my own bikes, but I don't want disgruntled friends giving me a hard time if their brake lines are rubbish.
Cheers,
Cam
I didn't recognise you with your new name. Thanks for your input. Seems the waters are very murky with brake lines. Nobody wants to give a straight answer and the only bloke I've found so far who has put up with all my technical questions is John Stamnas. From your comments, maybe he's not all he seems. Perhaps the cautious way to proceed is to get him to do one set of hoses and see what sort of job he does. As I mentioned earlier, I have 4 bikes to sort, 2 of them not mine. I can live with cock-ups on my own bikes, but I don't want disgruntled friends giving me a hard time if their brake lines are rubbish.
Cheers,
Cam
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Grant
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Cam, I buy most of my brake lines from Hel by dealing direct with them in the UK.
They are fast, courteous, helpful and replaced one without question when I bodged it up (measurements).
The quality of the parts is top rate, so I don't understand the comments of your 'friend'.
They are fast, courteous, helpful and replaced one without question when I bodged it up (measurements).
The quality of the parts is top rate, so I don't understand the comments of your 'friend'.
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silvo
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Cam,
Just go and buy the HEL ones. I've put them on two bikes now, my Morini and the Lav. I don't understand why anyone would even bother to complain about the workmanship. They are top quality.
The bloke who runs and owns the business here rides a Ducati so he can't be all that bad.
Cheers
Chris
Just go and buy the HEL ones. I've put them on two bikes now, my Morini and the Lav. I don't understand why anyone would even bother to complain about the workmanship. They are top quality.
The bloke who runs and owns the business here rides a Ducati so he can't be all that bad.
Cheers
Chris
mcnicol
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Cam, I use stainless lines with banjos bolting to the calipers, I can't see any reason for the extra connection for the steel rigid lines. If I didn't already have stainless lines I'd bypass the splitter too, just use a double banjo bolt/switch at the master cylinder (or a microswitch on the lever itself) and long hoses going to each caliper. Fewer points of failure, easier to bleed. Occam's Razor.
Ken
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