getting rollers into S2 starter clutch

mauricejota7604

mauricejota7604

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Well there's only so many time you can drop the F bomb whilst trying to get that bloody starter clutch back together and those bloody rollers.
I know there is a knack to this but cant seem to get it any wise comments welcome.
 
Brett said:
Pack them with grease then twist the flywheel on and bob's your uncle........
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^^ wot Brett said.
Another proven method is to assemble the starter clutch, then push each roller back and use a tie-wrap (block-end first) to hold them in place. Feed all six 'tails' of the tie-wraps through the centre hole, gently fit the assembly in place and then ease each tie-wrap out - job's a good 'un :D
 
Along with the counter-rotation twist of the freewheel, I also stick the finger through and pull each roller back one at a time, which allows the freewheel to engage a bit more each time.  Clack, clack, clack, and in she goes.  Mind the sharp edge on the pressed steel plate, it can be razor sharp.  Deburr it before you start. 
 
The S2 seems to be more difficult than the series 1 starter clutch. The rollers are a different size.
 
If I remember correctly I took the large geared wheel off [starter rm?], fitted the free wheel collar with the rollers etc. in place, fitted all that to the starter rm, and then back on the bike.


Been quite a while since I did it, but I un-scewed and removed a small retaining plate and put it back.
All has worked well since, S2 7617

 
Is2 said:
If I remember correctly I took the large geared wheel off [starter rm?], fitted the free wheel collar with the rollers etc. in place, fitted all that to the starter rm, and then back on the bike.
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Yep, agree, best to do it on the bench.
 
Agree with Brett, not necessary to overthink it!
Grease to hold the rollers in, offer up carefully, twist and it's on. If a roller falls out, repeat, couple of seconds and it's all done. Main thing (I'm sure you're aware) is to make sure those f'n countersunk screws are tight. Use loctite but also tighten as much as possible, then hit with a punch to tighten further, repeat, otherwise they will come loose.................


                                   
 
Hey Maurice
I had a Series 2 here a few years ago that I could not assemble the starter clutch on
questioning the owner he told me he had bought the starter clutch assembly from Laverda Paradise and that he had also had massive amounts of trouble assembling it as well

I machined up a ring same diameter as the freewheel locking face, removed the top plate from the clutch assembly and then assembled everything to see what was going on
even then it was difficult to get the rollers retracted far enough to allow the machined ring to fit in

rollers were close to engaged when the plungers were retracted into their mounting holes which explained why it was so difficult to assemble
but looking at the issue could see that the rollers themselves still had some room to be retracted further but the plungers were bottomed out
in the end I used shorter plungers that I had in stock that allowed the rollers more movement and then the starter clutch assembled correctly

HTH


 
mauricejota7604 said:
Tried the cable ties  Al that ended up making me swear more  >:( >:(
But on with the grease that held those suckers in there, those S2 starter clutches are much more difficult than the S1 engines.
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Not more difficult Maurice, just a bit different... :D

You'll aquire the knack eventually.

piet
 
mauricejota7604 said:
Tried the cable ties  Al that ended up making me swear more  >:( >:(
But on with the grease that held those suckers in there, those S2 starter clutches are much more difficult than the S1 engines.
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(congrats) (congrats) (congrats)
Me thinks you need to get out more and stop playing with S1 all of the time.
 
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