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I was wondering if anyone has had any experience with the H4 Philips racing vision gt 200 or the twenty 20 daylight 200+ bulb.
I was hoping to use a halogen bulb if possible rather than modify the wiring for the headlight On my 76 Jota. cheers.
 
Cuda said:
I was wondering if anyone has had any experience with the H4 Philips racing vision gt 200 or the twenty 20 daylight 200+ bulb.
I was hoping to use a halogen bulb if possible rather than modify the wiring for the headlight On my 76 Jota. cheers.
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H4 is standard on that.

Paul
 
Yeah H4 is standard. The globes im asking about are claiming that there halogen bulbs emit up to 200 times the minimum standard For a H4 60/55 bulb. I’m wondering if anyone has any experience with them. I‘ve read they have finer filaments that burn brighter but don’t last as long as the less bright thicker filament bulbs.
 
I've previously used an Osram Night Breaker Laser in mine but, last year on recommendation from our UK Truffle Sniffer, I switched to an

AUXITO H4 9003 LED Motorcycle Headlight Bulb (£12.50 delivered from EBay).​

It's no bigger than the incandescent in the headlamp shell, important as space is at a premium, in there.
Only been in for a couple of thousand miles, so far, without any problems.
It's less expensive and significantly brighter.
No issue with dip cut off, it sailed through an MOT Test.
According to the specs., it uses only 28 Watts.
The only noticeable wrinkle is that it pulses, in time, when the indicators are used. I'm not sure whether that's a plus or a minus, but it doesn't bother me.
I'll report if, and when, it fails unless it reaches it's claimed 30,000+ hours, in which case, I might not be around.



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Does the auxito require any mods with resister or the like or is it truly a plug’n’play as stated on the box, I don’t want to damage the electrical system. if no mods are needed I’d be keen to give it a go. I live in a rural area and find the original type headlight bulb seriously lacking, in fact dangerous above 80km / 50mph. thanks
 
All H4 bulbs are halogen-filled...

The Phillips Racing Vision indeed offer superior lighting, I use them in all my bikes and in the trusty old Skoda. It does come with a slight penalty though, they do not last anywhere near as long as a regular 55/60W bulb. There's no such thing as free lunch. :rolleyes:

The Phillips bulbs offer a far better light throw pattern than all the (illegal here) 80 and 100W bulbs I tried beforehand. The Phillips excells especially in light drizzle, simply "cuts" through!

The 180mm Bosch headlight of the Jota is notorious for losing it anti-dazzle spoon. It breaks off and then rattles around the reflector for a few 100 miles before the owner notices and removes it. By then, the reflector is goosed. Maybe that is part of the cause of the lack of light. As this is one of the earliest headlight systems made for H4 lighting, the spoon was incorporated to suit the very earliest bulbs that did not have a blacked off tip (somebody had a very bright idea there!). Once the bulbs all got the black tip, the spoon became redundant, but Herr Bosch decided to keep it for all eternity, destroying reflectors with tiring and expensive regularity.

I have become very wary of sales blurb, bright lighting and actually being able to see things in the dark are not always the same...

piet
 
Cuda said:
Does the auxito require any mods with resister or the like or is it truly a plug’n’play as stated on the box, I don’t want to damage the electrical system. if no mods are needed I’d be keen to give it a go. I live in a rural area and find the original type headlight bulb seriously lacking, in fact dangerous above 80km / 50mph. thanks
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It was a straight swap with no modifications required.
Most others I had looked at had a big heat sink at the back end and, because space is short inside the headlamp shell on a triple. I wasn't prepared to lay out the much higher prices other suppliers are asking, only to find the thing wouldn't fit.
 
Cheers for that Piet I’ll have to have a look at the reflectors condition, I think its ok but I’ll check. Also thanks for sharing your experience with the racing vision globes. I value your knowledgeable opinion.
 
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Thanks sock good to know. I had a look on there website and it looks like a marked improvement in light. Plus no mods are a bonus if I want to go back to halogen. Big help, cheers mate.
 
Might be advantageous to run the headlamp through relays, made a big difference on my RGS; directly from the battery terminal, through an in-line fuse and through a relay. Cuts down the voltage drop through the wiring in the LH switch-block.
 
Legs said:
Might be advantageous to run the headlamp through relays, made a big difference on my RGS; directly from the battery terminal, through an in-line fuse and through a relay. Cuts down the voltage drop through the wiring in the LH switch-block.
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The most advantageous thing you can do is run an earth directly to the frame.

Paul
 
I've still got the then mandatory yellow H4 in my SF2. It's been there since the 70s.
It's also mandatory to ride with your lights on so that bulb has seen many hours use.

Paul
 
G’day legs, I gather your referring about going LED and putting unwanted stress on the left hand switch block.
I may give the philips racing vision a try first and if I’m not happy then look at going LED.
 
Cuda said:
G’day legs, I gather your referring about going LED and putting unwanted stress on the left hand switch block.
I may give the philips racing vision a try first and if I’m not happy then look at going LED.
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The LED takes half the current of the incandescent.
Mine, a '76, has done without a relay for forty-five years without any problems.
 
At the risk of being controversial, I think that the fashion for having super bright lights on modern cars and bikes is a very unwelcome development. Many of these lights are very badly adjusted and in those 4 x 4 behemoths the headlights are set considerably higher than on a regular car to start with, so if you get one of those types coming up behind it makes the rear view mirrors unusable and at times you end up getting simultaneously dazzled from the back as well as the front. All of this makes driving at night very unpleasant ( I find ) and I am quite sure for many others as well. Strong lights in a rural setting is one thing but in an urban/suburban environment which let's face it is where most people drive most of the time, I can see no reason at all for these super bright lights other than for annoying other road users, which for all I know maybe the attraction for some people.
 
Agree totally with the above. In my younger days I used to get frustrated driving at night behind a car that slowed every time they faced an oncoming vehicle. You knew the drivers old eyes were not capable of dealing with the glare. Well now it's my eyes that can't cope and the 'new' high intensity headlights don't help. Mind you my Jota headlight is really terrible.
 
There is a huge thread in Adventure Rider where idiots advocate using Hi-Beam on bikes all the time saying you get noticed. Yes, you do, and you also blind others who then turn away. It's the same effect with all those super bright running lights BMW Adventure bikes add these days. Fine, run a light if it makes you feel safer but don't go nuts with them. And it's easy to loosen and adjust your light to shine down on the road in front of you and not up killing possums. BTW I run a 90/130 watt H4 with a relay, and with it adjusted well I don't get any reaction from others coming the other way and what a great help it is on back roads at night.
 
TheWrongTrousers said:
At the risk of being controversial, I think that the fashion for having super bright lights on modern cars and bikes is a very unwelcome development. Many of these lights are very badly adjusted and in those 4 x 4 behemoths the headlights are set considerably higher than on a regular car to start with, so if you get one of those types coming up behind it makes the rear view mirrors unusable and at times you end up getting simultaneously dazzled from the back as well as the front. All of this makes driving at night very unpleasant ( I find ) and I am quite sure for many others as well. Strong lights in a rural setting is one thing but in an urban/suburban environment which let's face it is where most people drive most of the time, I can see no reason at all for these super bright lights other than for annoying other road users, which for all I know maybe the attraction for some people.
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Not controversial at all!

For a fun car, I have a 2006 Mazda MX5, or Miata, as it is known in the US. Nighttime driving has become seriously tiresome since the surveillance tanks that now serve as kiddie transport roam the roads. A normal SUV behind me will shine its lights directly into my rear view mirror, completely blinding me. The mirror dip function cannot cope at all with the light intensity of LEDs, I have the suspicion they don't have a proper dip pattern at all. Instead, they throw out a solid beam in varying intensities, regardless of what is approaching from the opposite direction. Guess it wouldn't make any difference anyhow, the dipshit drivers like to tailgate a smaller car at every possible opportunity. I have a serious grudge against german SUV drivers, most cannot drive, very few actually know how big their vehicle is and the suggested on board safety makes them drive like brainless cunts with absolutely no respect to others. Stupid fuckers... well, most of them. Pretty sure it's much the same elsewhere. ;)

piet
 
sfcpiet said:
Pretty sure it's much the same elsewhere
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It certainly is in the London area and South of England. Have you noticed how some of the top end Audi and BMW's have headlights and front grills designed (in my view) to intimidate other road users ? The front end of the cars have a viscous sort of a look reminiscent of the shark in "Jaws" or some such. That factor combined with the offensive level of headlight intensity makes for an overall effect that I think is designed to be intimidatory. Call me a cynic, but I think they must be made like that in order to appeal to a certain kind of driver. It's a very bad state of affairs, in my view.
 
Yes, and don't you think motorcycle manufacturers have gone down the same route with their 'transformer' look on so many models. They spotted that adults were watching what I thought were children's comic characters and so their design departments copied the look. Not my cup of tea but they seem to sell.
 
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