Hi-Siding pros & cons !

........ here is another that hasn`t been restricted by Dorna ....

In this case the rear breaks loose , the bike over-corrects , breaks loose again , over corrects again ..... you get the picture ..... rider still ends up airborne though , which is what high-siding is all about .... :) ...........

( You have to play it slow to fully get the idea ... ) .......


Also found this ......

 
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rocketonarail: LOL- They are GP Nutters NOT long distance Day and Night Road warriors through all kinds of weather with a real job.
 
We understand your concept of powering out of trouble Ron, but I'm sure we will unanimously agree that you're using the wrong terminology (as I said back in post #14). That Marini hi-side happens insanely quickly! They can feel like slo-mo or instantaneous, depending on the velocity and thus the power of the 'snap-back'. Ouch!!
 
That Marini clip reminds me of a massive tank-slapper someone got into coming down Bray Hill at the `99 TT ( I think ) ..... A sort of ever lasting high side waiting to happen ...... which it does ....

Too late for me now .... I`ll do it tomorrow .......
 
piranha-bro2: I understand as to what you SEE in GP Racing as an instant High-Siding catastrophe but we are NOT GP Idiots and if you ride Cafe, Hi-Siding is a technique to MASTER Short wheel base, Top heavy, Hi-Revving Motorcycles at the limit on Public Roads to win and more likely to use that skill to save your life to steer around an old Blind Senior in a Dodge Valiant who pulls out and blocks your path.

If have even ridden a Breganzie or Ducati they tend to Hi-Side on every corner with your ass on the seat - So you prepare to Counter Hi-Side on approach to every corner where you push the bars against the corner to drop the bike away from the corner and use some throttle - Seems a natural feeling until you really have to exaggerate and that's were you require the practice to muscle the machine.

The thing is short wheel base, top heavy bikes can bite the corners deeper and faster if you know what your doing and not do a Low-Side Slide or grab a Hi-Side Flip ;o)
 
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The thing is short wheel base, top heavy bikes can bite the corners deep and fast if you know what your doing and not primarily subject to slow Low-Sides and then instantly Hi-Side flip - I say "DON'T do that" as you are out of control ;o)
 
Yeah yeah yeah Ron!! You make sense except what you call a high-side is not what the rest of the planet call a high-side. i ride a Breganzie twin, I have been known to ride it very fast, I have had two high-sides on my Breganzie - i think it might be time to just accept that what you describe is NOT a high-side.
It's late, I'm tired and simply not in the mood ... in fact i'm wondering why I'm bothering ...
 
indeed Tony, seen that one previous, worst thing he could have done was to "fight" the bars, lack of 70's jap bike riding experience full stop. Affliction of modern/younger riders perhaps. The Suzy GT750K of mine had a "sound barrier" effect at around 90mph tank slapper/weave which relented above 90mph then you had the problem of coming back down through the sound barrier.... loose hands on the bars, as the weave turned into a tank slapper, then ok again below 90mph ( had a mph speedo from new ), liked one road tester comment on the Inoue tyres has as much grip as the exhausts when leaned over at speed.... Guzzi club ride once, the mob behind me asked if i was ok after a slapper session, yes they do that all the time, you get good at them in the end...or else... a grin j.
 
Yes Jon ...... All this puts me in mind of a story by journalist ( and Laverda fancier ) Dave Minton concerning a mate he knew called Eric .......

Eric rode a Clubmans Gold Star , and whilst cruising along the newly opened M1 motorway at 90 mph , found that when he slowed to 70 , the BSA became involved in a plainly terminal weave , caused by a flat front tyre .........

Eric promptly returned to 90 mph again , congratulating himself on this classic solution to the problem ......... and contemplated the remaining 10 miles or so to the end of the motorway ..........


This same Eric also once suffered a trapped spinal nerve or somesuch , whilst riding the same BSA .......... and screaming in agony , and unable to move , slowed to a halt , and toppled off the bike sideways onto the grass verge ........

He was bundled into a car and driven to the nearest hospital , where he was wheeled through the corridors on his back on a trolley , still locked in the classic Goldie racing crouch ....... arms , and legs bent at the knees , both pointing up in the air ..........
 
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rocketonarail said:
Here`s that clip I was on about yesterday ........ Paul Orritt fails to manipulate a tank-slapper .........

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I was going to say that sounds like ‘orrible Orrit’s crash, but you beat me too it, but not as beat up as Paul was. lost a finger among other injuries. lucky fella in many ways that’s all he lost.
 
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