How to lubricate swingarm via grease nipple

steppenwolf said:
i have bronze bushes Paul, so wondering how much grease getting out is to much? or how to minimize this flow? The reason i am looking at this is i noticed play at the swingarm (maybe +-1.5 mm at its end) and i pumped grease to reduce it and that worked well. Problem is after maybe 200km i have again the same amount of play and a lot of grease all around. Any suggestion?
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Grease coming out is normal. It should come out until as Legs ( come Mistinguett
) writes all the old grease has been pushed out and you can see fresh grease coming out.

You shouldn't have any play at the end of the swingarm though 1.5 mm isn't catastrophic unless you're measuring with the schocks still bolted in which case, it's enormous. I've seen a lot more than 1.5 mm. Your bronze bushes are very likely worn and the grease you are putting in is taking up the wear, for a short time.

Paul
 
My SF1 had bronze bushes and the single grease nipple, it was regularly greased, its the only nipple for grease on the bikk! but the bearings were shagged after about 18,000 miles, and it was end float that was the problem, the greasing routine was increased after I renewed them but the side thrust faces still wore badly and at 36,000 miles I crashed the bike and scrapped it, using the parts for my Egli.

TOG (1200TS series 1) also has the grease nipple and has covered 240,000 recorded Kilometres with many more, onknown, not recorded, I grease regularly and have never changed the needle rollers or the thrust washers, they still show no sign of any slack.

I use an industrial side lever cartidge type grease gun, with a flex rubber spout, clean the nipple before atatching the gun, rest one end of the gun on the floor, ( I do it on a work ramp) hold the fitting onto the nipple, with one hand as Piet says two or three pumps with the other hand and its full again, I am always planning to change the nipple for a different type where the gun will hold itself onto the nipple, (but not a slide on typoe which are even better) just like the two dozen or so on my digger, all of which i have had to change over the years due to them not holding.
CLEM
 
steppenwolf said:
i have bronze bushes Paul, so wondering how much grease getting out is to much? or how to minimize this flow? The reason i am looking at this is i noticed play at the swingarm (maybe +-1.5 mm at its end) and i pumped grease to reduce it and that worked well. Problem is after maybe 200km i have again the same amount of play and a lot of grease all around. Any suggestion?
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In a nutshell, your bushings are knackered. Whoever owned/rode/maintained the bike up to this point has neglected to lube the bushes, now they and/or the spindle upon which the swingarm pivots is/are worn out... simple really.

Taking up the play with grease can only be a temporary measure, just a little bit of use/movement through the pivot will quickly squash any grease out of a larger gap. Only real long-term remedy is to replace with new bits. And to adhere to a maintenance plan! ;)

piet
 
For sure a bush cannot be repaired by grease. Just a very small play has an influence in the riding stability. Bushes have to be exchanged.
Andre
 
Just fitted new needle rollers to the Jotas arm and now find that the bush is tight in the bearing on chain end of arm. Swap bushes between ends and the problem stays with the chain end of the arm. The housing bore was visually looking good, so my guess before getting bearing out again is that the housing has become a little oval so bearing distorts. The old bearings weren’t bad, nor the bushes, just replaced as had everything painted. anyone encountered ovalster in the swing arm? Any tips on overcoming the problem? Will probably use as is until winter, bearing is notchy so should be okay for a while.
 
laverda180 said:
Just fitted new needle rollers to the Jotas arm and now find that the bush is tight in the bearing on chain end of arm. Swap bushes between ends and the problem stays with the chain end of the arm. The housing bore was visually looking good, so my guess before getting bearing out again is that the housing has become a little oval so bearing distorts. The old bearings weren’t bad, nor the bushes, just replaced as had everything painted. anyone encountered ovalster in the swing arm? Any tips on overcoming the problem? Will probably use as is until winter, bearing is notchy so should be okay for a while.
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I've had a bearing outer loose. It needed Loctite to make it stay put.
Paul
 
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