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I have to agree with Grant, i would love to see more of ppl's recommendations for their pet engineers/fabricators
 
I'll put it this way should I ....if I came across this forum looking for good advice and read only the good things people write about suppliers and then was on the receiving end of their idiosyncratic business practices which nobody mentioned I would be fucking livid.
 
Please don't go fucking Livid Pat, or anybody else for that matter, it's only a hypothetical discussion after all, nothing to get bent out of shape about..ha ha. :D
 
Bob, I'm quite sure that my hypothetical blood pressure will be spared by heeding the sage advice received from the vocal minority on the forum  :D
 
In the last year, I've had 2 random folk walk up to when Ive been with my Laverda, once at the Ace Cafe 2010 and once last month at Castle Combe. I dont know either bloke, both between 55 and 65.

Its a story and nothing more, not hard based evidence but I dont like to leave it unsaid anymore, make your own judgement. Both left bikes with an aformentioned Laverda Specialist, both never got the bikes back, One an SFC750, one a Jota. Thats all I know, both stories could be bollocks.

Then a Laverda mate who only got his cams back after endless bollocks and lies (he still posts on here but doesn't complain about it anymore).  Guess it's all bollocks, heresay and lies, that's the problem it could be ?

Rob
 
Rob - i could give you dozens of examples concerning the same "specialist" - but there are those who hero worship him, and, to be fair, they have probably never been on the receiving (or should I say "not receiving") end of his "unusual business practices" and he gives them what they regard as good service. I suppose this section is working as people will now be warned and can use this man at their own risk. - Regards - Phil
 
Thanks Phil

Its a very difficult situation, at least for me. I dont mind sticking my neck out when I have hard facts, but, I'd rather unknowing folks are really in grasp of the whole potential situation, because those are the bikes that become donor spare parts (potentially).
 
mmhh - I have a hard time believing that a man that basically would have stolen 2 bikes would be free still and not in jail... Also it is easy to oversee parts if your workshop is not organized well, but 2 bikes?!? Especially a 750SFC, where almost every owner is known, almost every bike is known where it is etc.?!? That bike would surface for sure earlier or later and the story behind the who sold what to whom would be very clear soon - no?

I really doubt these kind of stories are anywhere near truth. I don't know the man personally nor do I have or ever had any business-relations to him, but "loosing" a 750SFC?  :o how should that happen in practice? If he sells it on, the owner would be able to claim the bike back from the one that holds it now easily, as in any country I think you can't be the owner of a stolen item. No?

Even if it gets broken for parts - these surface soon and you will recognize them in such a small world as ours is... Not saying it is impossible, but having first hand experiance with buying stolen parts (and returning them to the original owner...!!), I can assure you everything comes to surface one day. It took 4 years until the parts i bought were sold through ebay after the bike was stolen from a race track, but the owner (watching ebay still as he had other bikes, too) found the parts and informed police...
 
Do a search Lothar, and have a look at previous threads on this subject.  I've squared up to Tetley on this one before (and really don't have any desire to upset anyone) but my experience was very similar to chris78jota's as mentioned by Rob (I'm not giving anything away here- it's all searchable) in that I had paid a monkey (that's ?500) for a recon head and he absolutely would not send it to me!  No head, no money, no good.  

I eventually had a stand off with him and his landlord on the phone (I had paid his landlord by credit card because he needed Steve's rent on the Evesham unit) where I convinced his landlord that the credit card company would be able to charge back the money if I asked them to.  Not true BTW as he was a third party, but I was desperate.  His landlord made sure that the head went off.  Why did it come to that, and why were half of the cam block nuts, washers and a complete set of cams missing when it arrived? Then I started getting messages from other people in similar circumstances, some much worse off than me.  

Now, I have not criticised his work, but I am criticising his 'eccentricities' which even his fans will admit exist, and feel for the greater good of the Laverda community at large these need to be discussed/aired.
 
Lothar, regarding the disappearance of bikes [or otherwise] the reason this can happen even to exotica like SFCs is quite simple.  Quite a few owners are well- heeled and often have good jobs which take them around the globe. They buy stuff and forget about it. A Laverda SFC might be hugely significant in your life or mine, but if it shares garage space with stuff like pre war Grand Prix cars it probably has less prominence within your priorities. It's not particularly unusual for people like this to leave something with a specialist and not collect it for years.

I manufature bespoke, expensive pedal cycles . I sold a bike to a chap over two years ago, all bought and paid for [?5k]. OK,peanuts compared to an SFC but he still hasn't collected it, in fact he's never ridden it! The reason? He's just too busy... It doesn't bother me because he's paid for it. Storage isn't a problem so it's not in the way. I've got quite a few mates in the car restoration game and you'd be amazed to see the sort of stuff dumped on them by wealthy clients who appear to have no interest in claiming their cars back. XKs, E-types, even a Can-Am Lola!

I can't comment about the veracity of the SFC story, but I can certainly see how the situation could occur.
 
there used to be a guy in Brisbane, was the main Laverda delaer for years who must have been this "specialist's" brother
he also has a number of Laverda's that were abandoned by their owners as the years went by, they just lost interest in trying to get their bikes back off of him
too much of a "Saga"  :D

I can see how it happens, life moves on and peoples lives change, circumstances change, etc
But to leave a SFC behind,  :o



 
bob said:
I can't comment about the veracity of the SFC story, but I can certainly see how the situation could occur.

The SFC claimant, is in a photo somewhere on the net :)  I think the photo was taken by Benzina (Ace Cafe frontage), and there is a guy bending over looking at my bike with grey hair (betwixt bike and camera)  that should narrow it down  :D :D
 
Gingergeezer The comment I made "Its nothing more than that" had nothing to do with the content of Reggies reply it referred to Padlocks comment  "Turning into hand bags at dawn"

 
 
you guys are fucking hilarious

from my experience if youve fucked one, well then eventually youll fuck them all,

been involved with the "Saga" and going through another one now, i refer to it as a "Wats On"

Theres plenty of good guys here, no need to rub with the trash

Grow up peeps, its  not a whos best competition
 
This thread was originally based on personal experience not what a stranger whispers in your ear before disappearing in a cloud of orange smoke !


Regards
Tetley 
 
Tetley Laverda said:
This thread was originally based on personal experience not what a stranger whispers in your ear before disappearing in a cloud of orange smoke !

Thought it was just bikes (& bits thereof) that disappeared without trace  :D
 
Orange smoke?  What the bloody hell is the beardy one smoking now? :o
 
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