Italian Lakes trip

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I think you are making more than a few get inspired. You had great weather, it was stinking hot when I was in the area quite a few summers ago. It could be hot and bothered on the road in traffic, but stop and park and walk into places like Cannobio and you enter a different magic. I almost commented at the first posts that no seats were up and fuel tanks off like many club rides, but then.... but you have had almost no problems with the old bikes. Great write up and pics, thanks.
 
I think you are making more than a few get inspired. You had great weather, it was stinking hot when I was in the area quite a few summers ago. It could be hot and bothered on the road in traffic, but stop and park and walk into places like Cannobio and you enter a different magic. I almost commented at the first posts that no seats were up and fuel tanks off like many club rides, but then.... but you have had almost no problems with the old bikes. Great write up and pics, thanks.


Thanks Lee, your comment hits the nail on the head! The traffic on the lakeside roads can be annoying, and so can the heat. But the places are magical! And yes, we didn't do much tinkering; the only thing that broke on the Laverda's tankrucksack was a zipper, and soon I'll have to get back to the starter clutch ...
 
Day 5

We actually wanted to take the ferry to the east side of Lake Garda again and explore the Monte Baldo massif, which I remember from previous visits and wanted to show my friends.


However, these beautiful lakes are a bit of a challenge, as they always require driving along parts of the lakeside roads. We'd already narrowly avoided a closure on the third day and didn't really want to do that again on the long weekend with so many tourists.


So, we decided to explore the west side of Lake Garda with Tignale and Gargnano and then drive back to Lake Idro via and the Valvestino Dam.


We started with the pilgrimage church of Madonna di Montecastello, located at an altitude of about 650m. It's accessible via a narrow access road with a gradient of up to 28%. From there, we'd a very beautiful view south into the Po Valley:

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We cont'd to Gargnano (the 'gn' is pronounced like in 'cognac'). Gargnano has a tiny harbor with a small pier directly on Lake Garda. We naturally took advantage of this opportunity to take a few photos:

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After a brief break at Lake Idro:

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... the Norton's header flange nuts req’d (re)tightening:

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They would play a role again on the last day.







To be cont’d
 
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Yes Quentin. On day 5 we changed bikes, it's really nice to ride! Only not so good thing is the gear shift linkage. Due to his relocated foodpegs and his wish to keep the shift pattern (1st gear up) it's ergonomically not ideal. He put it on his to do list though …
 
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Day 6 - The last day of driving back to the starting hotel



The original plan was to ride over the Gavia Pass towards the Stelvio Pass. We'd take a break there at the Tibet Hut and then continue over the Umbrail Pass into the Vinschgau Valley to the Reschen Pass.



That was the theory. Unfortunately, the Gavia Pass wasn't scheduled to open until a week later, so this proved as not possible. And after all the beautiful weather we'd had, it was supposed to rain in the afternoon.



So, we decided to take the route over the Hofmahdjoch and further into the Vinschgau from Merano.



We’d also taken the Hofmahdjoch in 2024 on the way to Breganze with Hamish, Luigi, Jürgen, and Manni, traveling north/south, but this time in the opposite direction.



We started north via Riva and past lakes Tenno and Molveno. It was Monday, all the tourists were back home, and we found empty roads that gave us big fun and allowed us to make good progress.



We refueled again near Cles, view north still shows nice weather:

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My BMW friend always makes a comment about the Norton's "shot glass tank" when we stop at a gas station every 150 km just in case. It was roughly the same spot where Luigi's Jota broke down 2024 on the way to Breganze.


Driving down from the Hofmadjoch pass into the Ulten Valley, the Norton suddenly disappeared from my rearview mirror. As it turned out, the flange nut on the left manifold had come loose (again).

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As for the header flange nuts discussed above:
My friend had installed high-quality CNC-machined aluminum flange nuts on his Norton. He believed they would cope better with the cylinder heads than the original steel flange nuts due to their similar expansion coefficient.

Although he’d reduced his luggage to the bare essentials, he even had a suitable wrench with him:
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However, we secured the nut with lock-wire this time, and were able to continue our journey:

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Before we reached Kastelbell, it finally started to rain. Since there was a nice café there, we took the opportunity to take a break and then put on our rain gear.

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We drove in the rain for the last hour and a half of the return trip, which really isn't much on a six-day trip.




Eventually, we arrived safe and sound at our start/finish hotel:

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First, I got us three beers ...

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... before we loaded the three Graces onto the trailer:

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Done and ready for dinner!





The next morning, we set off back to the Rhineland:

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So, that's it from my side. Thank you for your interest and your comments, much appreciated!
:)

Jo
 
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Day 6 - The last day of driving back to the starting hotel



The original plan was to ride over the Gavia Pass towards the Stelvio Pass. We'd take a break there at the Tibet Hut and then continue over the Umbrail Pass into the Vinschgau Valley to the Reschen Pass.



That was the theory. Unfortunately, the Gavia Pass wasn't scheduled to open until a week later, so this proved as not possible. And after all the beautiful weather we'd had, it was supposed to rain in the afternoon.



So, we decided to take the route over the Hofmahdjoch and further into the Vinschgau from Merano.



We’d also taken the Hofmahdjoch in 2024 on the way to Breganze with Hamish, Luigi, Jürgen, and Manni, traveling north/south, but this time in the opposite direction.



We started north via Riva and past lakes Tenno and Molveno. It was Monday, all the tourists were back home, and we found empty roads that gave us big fun and allowed us to make good progress.



We refueled again near Cles, view north still shows nice weather:

54572797960_776a0236d8_c.jpg





My BMW friend always makes a comment about the Norton's "shot glass tank" when we stop at a gas station every 150 km just in case. It was roughly the same spot where Luigi's 2024 Jota broke down on the way to Breganze.


Driving down from the Hofmadjoch pass into the Ulten Valley, the Norton suddenly disappeared from my rearview mirror. As it turned out, the flange nut on the left manifold had come loose (again).

54569031745_0274502ef1_c.jpg





As for the header flange nuts discussed above:
My friend had installed high-quality CNC-machined aluminum flange nuts on his Norton. He believed they would cope better with the cylinder heads than the original steel flange nuts due to their similar expansion coefficient. Although he’d reduced his luggage to the bare essentials, he even had a suitable wrench with him, see photo from day 5.

However, we secured the nut with lock-wire this time, and were able to continue our journey:

54571579542_a3552a4d1c_c.jpg






Before we reached Kastelbell, it finally started to rain. Since there was a nice café there, we took the opportunity to take a break and then put on our rain gear.

54572527496_df13da81a0_c.jpg





We drove in the rain for the last hour and a half of the return trip, which really isn't much on a six-day trip.




Eventually, we arrived safe and sound at our start/finish hotel:

54568706241_5e51036a32_b.jpg








First, I got us three beers ...

54568705926_91673fb9f7.jpg






... before we loaded the three Graces onto the trailer:

54568930403_5b1c622afa_c.jpg




Done and ready for dinner!





The next morning, we set off back to the Rhineland:

54568705816_c3df746bfd_b.jpg






So, that's it from my side. Thank you for your interest and your comments, much appreciated!
:)

Jo
Bloody Marvelous Jo, Living the Dream! :cool: Froffy with friends to cap it off 🍺
 
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I bought a new Norton in 72, ‘‘twas a combat engined Interstate with disc brake. Was a nightmare to own, went through two or three engine rebuilds under warranty. One was for new cases and main bearings and the others for excessive oil consumption. After the warranty period expired I read about the porous head issues they were having so swapped out the combat head for a standard head and cured the excessive oil consumption. Loved the power delivery of the Norton but couldn’t put up with the constant oil leaks and the fear of another engine rebuild.
As the Laverda triple had just been released in Oz I put in an order for one and never looked back. It’s been an amazing journey so far meeting people all over the world but probably the two highlights so far are when my Jota and I went back to Europe in 09 and 19. Amazing trips and wonderful people that I met on my adventure 😊
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..my first triple,1456. Back in my garage after 40 odd years apart. Will be put back on the road in the next twelve months 😊👍
 
In the pic on the bench I'd swear the chap on the right has been skewered by that black spike and is mortus est!! He looks decidedly defunct! :ROFLMAO:
 
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I bought a new Norton in 72, ‘‘twas a combat engined Interstate with disc brake. Was a nightmare to own, went through two or three engine rebuilds under warranty. One was for new cases and main bearings and the others for excessive oil consumption. After the warranty period expired I read about the porous head issues they were having so swapped out the combat head for a standard head and cured the excessive oil consumption. Loved the power delivery of the Norton but couldn’t put up with the constant oil leaks and the fear of another engine rebuild.
As the Laverda triple had just been released in Oz I put in an order for one and never looked back. It’s been an amazing journey so far meeting people all over the world but probably the two highlights so far are when my Jota and I went back to Europe in 09 and 19. Amazing trips and wonderful people that I met on my adventure 😊
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..my first triple,1456. Back in my garage after 40 odd years apart. Will be put back on the road in the next twelve months 😊👍
That Poo brown colour is back on trend Tom :ROFLMAO: 🍺
 
I bought a new Norton in 72, ‘‘twas a combat engined Interstate with disc brake. Was a nightmare to own, went through two or three engine rebuilds under warranty. ...
As the Laverda triple had just been released in Oz I put in an order for one and never looked back. It’s been an amazing journey so far meeting people all over the world but probably the two highlights so far are when my Jota and I went back to Europe in 09 and 19. Amazing trips and wonderful people that I met on my adventure 😊
Tom😊👍
I bought my 850 Commando a year later, in '73, Tom. I had better luck than you with the motor, but the torque of the 850 was far too great for the gearbox layshaft bearing which collapsed, locking the rear wheel and seriously putting my life at risk.
Bought the Triple in '76 and, like you, had amazing trips and met wonderful people, including you.
 
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