Lane splitting, I am for the practice, and I do it.

Voting in OZ is mandatory but informal voting is legal (mainly because it's untraceable). Have been tempted to write " None of the above" on my ballot paper.
All very civilised here in Aus, everybody gathers around after voting, regardless of allegiance, to enjoy a democracy sausage.:)
 
Can't stand people who tell me they don't vote because the system is bullshit, b ut complain endlessly about how the bullshit unfolds. So glad oz has compulsory voting - it makes people at least give SOME thought to politics and the system in general, even if they may be too obtuse to really understand it.
 
So much of US politics is around motivating people to get off their arse and vote or in lots of cases restricting the ability to vote. Yes as bad as compulsory voting is, it's way better than a non-compulsory system. In the case of Oz Federaly, it's a couple of weeks of campaigning and an hour on voting day, Bloody hell it's a full-time job in the Us election season, months and months of campaigning.
 
What a load of shit, if that was the case then why I has there ever been an independent prime minister?? You vote for your little reprobate member and they give their preference to the two big dogs and we get stuck with the same retards running the show, granted there has been a few good ones but in the end it’s all the same, watch question time for a week, if you acted like that in business, and thats what they are running where would you be? Why would you encourage them by ticking a box. i don’t vote, Im happy to pay my fine so they don’t cancel my license and rego, my time is valuable, if we live in this so called democratic altruistic society that we are lead to believe why the fuck do you need to tell me what I can and can not do? Cause your the government? Fuck off, I will continue to do what I do quietly… thought I’d get in before someone locks the thread😜
 
Bloody anarchist. Wouldn't it be nice if we all could just do our own thing, obviously without harming others, that's the real meaning of Anarchy, but with zero violence. No chance of that happening any time soon. Now where is my tin foil hat?
 
Cosi said:
What a load of shit, if that was the case then why I has there ever been an independent prime minister?? You vote for your little reprobate member and they give their preference to the two big dogs and we get stuck with the same retards running the show, granted there has been a few good ones but in the end it’s all the same, watch question time for a week, if you acted like that in business, and thats what they are running where would you be? Why would you encourage them by ticking a box. i don’t vote, Im happy to pay my fine so they don’t cancel my license and rego, my time is valuable, if we live in this so called democratic altruistic society that we are lead to believe why the fuck do you need to tell me what I can and can not do? Cause your the government? Fuck off, I will continue to do what I do quietly… thought I’d get in before someone locks the thread😜
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Aw c'mon Cosi. I got just the candidate for you.............
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So,
Devils advocate here.

If lane splitting is legal, Cars can do it also right? or not? one rule for bikes and one for cars? where is the line drawn?

Ever driven round the Paris ring road and seen all the wankers riding up behind you far too fast with their hazard lights on? We are not driving cars looking backward constantly, yes all good drivers / riders do look behind sometimes but in a traffic situation no one is glued to the rear view mirror when another car is 1m in front of them and likely to stop any minute.
In my opinion the only reason these moppets can have for putting their hazards on is so that they are already on when they are wiped out and lying in the middle of the road after hitting someone who is trying to go home and minding their own business when swiped from the back by an impatient arsehole.

When ridden carefully there is no problem with lane splitting, but make it law and you are in for one hell of a death rate!
Cyclists in Belgium and Holland have automatic right of way, This law has seen brains removed and adults even ride out in front of a 40 ton truck and complain when they get knocked off because it could not stop. Absolute morons!!!

Be careful for what you wish for is my moto.

Jules
 
Lane splitting legal with restrictions works really well here (in Melbourne) - just allows us to do legally what used to be illegal but tolerated - agree about the morons out there. Saw a moto fly past on a congested ring road in Paris - got even more congested a few minutes later when the traffic had to filter past the bike and a car ... and the rider - who'd gone through the back window of the car!

The cycling law is a joke - so glad they don't have it here - we have a newish 1m rule - you must leave 1m distance when overtaking a bicycle - I cycle a lot - it's helped raise awareness, but you get arseholes who take delight in letting you know they think it's a horse shit rule - and give you about 10cm. Oh what fun.

Saw a sticker on the back of a truck once - 'Don't Insist On Your Rites' ... self-explanatory. Lexical ambiguity is a beautiful thing! Or is that phonetic ambiguity?
 
piranha-bro2 said:
Can't stand people who tell me they don't vote because the system is bullshit, b ut complain endlessly about how the bullshit unfolds. So glad oz has compulsory voting - it makes people at least give SOME thought to politics and the system in general, even if they may be too obtuse to really understand it.
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It’s only compulsory to go to the voting station - you still do not have to vote if you choose not to.
 
There was a recent idiot who deliberately got too close and hit a cyclist in Sydney, doesnt pay to deliberately do this stuff with all those cameras about, he is now having an extended holiday on the state.
 
Hmm, I’ve read most of the posts here. I’m consider my as very lucky as in the uk lane splitting is very much tolerated here. Often cars will move to allow space, and law says you can!
 
Cosi said:
What a load of shit, if that was the case then why I has there ever been an independent prime minister?? You vote for your little reprobate member and they give their preference to the two big dogs and we get stuck with the same retards running the show, granted there has been a few good ones but in the end it’s all the same, watch question time for a week, if you acted like that in business, and thats what they are running where would you be? Why would you encourage them by ticking a box. i don’t vote, Im happy to pay my fine so they don’t cancel my license and rego, my time is valuable, if we live in this so called democratic altruistic society that we are lead to believe why the fuck do you need to tell me what I can and can not do? Cause your the government? Fuck off, I will continue to do what I do quietly… thought I’d get in before someone locks the thread😜
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I have never understood why here in Australia we compel those who do not care to vote.
 
Bottler said:
I have never understood why here in Australia we compel those who do not care to vote.
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Try living in a country with low voter engagement. A tiny minority of motivated nutjobs can swing elections that the majority overlooks. When less than 30% of the eligible voters show up to a given election, the fanatic vote has a lot of power. By mandating voters to show up at the polls, most of them will go into the booth and vote. Even if they pull the lever at random , it dilutes the lunatic vote. It’s not a perfect solution, but it’s an attempt to solve a problem.
 
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