Laverda in the latest fashion UK

An observation: this seems to be slipping into the "Here are a set of rules that, I say, everyone must live by."

Opinion as Commandment.

My attitude has always been one of laissez faire.
Just sayin'
 
I understand you don`t necessarily need lots of horsepower to have fun , or even to be safe on a bike ......... It all depends on the sort of rider you are , and the type of roads you ride on ......

I`m not a " fast " rider by any means , ( although I do like to get a wiggle on when the conditions are safe , and there`s no one else around ........ although my wiggle can quite often be embarrassed by other people`s wiggle ) ....

Even so , I like to have the security of having something in hand power wise , even though 90% of the time I may never need , or use it ........ It`s a form of insurance policy for the un expected ......

Typical traffic speed on dual carriageways can be in the 70-80 mph bracket ........ On motorways it`s 80-100 plus mph ........ how much horsepower do you think you would need to even maintain your position within that traffic flow ......( and you WILL find yourself within that traffic flow , unless you prefer to follow a 55 mph truck for miles on end ) ......... never mind having the 20-30% in hand to take avoiding action when someone pulls out in front of you , or starts tailgating you ..........

All down to personal choice of course , but I prefer to play it safe ........
 
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BTW ....... Just to illustrate the reasoning behind my point of view , I would like to video a typical trip along some sections of the A429 , and the unrestricted stretches of the M4 , and then you could form your own opinions as to whether you would prefer to have either 25 bhp , or ( say ) 75 bhp , available to you ....

.... but the GoPro has gone belly up , and seeing new ones are £400 , and I`m currently going through my own personal cost of living crisis , it will have to wait ...... :) .........
The big advantage of reading your posts is that I know which roads to avoid next time I'm in the UK on a bike.
:)
I avoid dual carriageways and motorways anyway.
Paul
 
The big advantage of reading your posts is that I know which roads to avoid next time I'm in the UK on a bike.
:)
I avoid dual carriageways and motorways anyway.
Paul
Actually , I had just deleted that last post of mine , because I decided it was a bit un necessary ......... I like to avoid high speed , busy roads as well , but sometimes ( especially if you live in or near a big city ) , you have little choice ......... :) ..........

Going back to Sir Sid`s original post .... If I were starting from scratch , it`s the Aprilia I would go for .......... Aprilia are the sort of natural successor to Laverda ........ I believe some Zane people moved to Noale ...... and they own the name ........ A bells and whistles version of the Aprilia could even have a Laverda badge stuck on it`s tank , and it would still be more of a Laverda than a modern day Thailand Triumph is a Triumph , or a modern day Chinese Benelli is a Benelli , for example ,,,,,,,,( If you see what I mean .... ) ......

Problem is , the Aprilia name is much more relevant to the buying public now than Laverda ........

Slater Bros used to have an advertising tag line " Who ever heard a Laverda " ( catchy or what ? ) .......... Trouble is , as time goes by , that line is going to ring more and more true ........
 
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Actually , I had just deleted that last post of mine , because I decided it was a bit un necessary ......... I like to avoid high speed , busy roads as well , but sometimes ( especially if you live in or near a big city ) , you have little choice ......... :) ..........

Going back to Sir Sid`s original post .... If I were starting from scratch , it`s the Aprilia I would go for .......... Aprilia are the sort of natural successor to Laverda ........ I believe some Zane people moved to Noale ...... and they own the name ........ A bells and whistles version of the Aprilia could even have a Laverda badge stuck on it`s tank , and it would still be more of a Laverda than a modern day Thailand Triumph is a Triumph , or a modern day Chinese Benelli is a Benelli , for example ,,,,,,,,( If you see what I mean .... ) ......
Some workers and engineers went from Breganze, to Zane, to Noale. I know a few of them. Toni Cavazzin who ran a semi official Laverda TT2 team, one of the bikes of which I unknowingly bought from Phil Todd having outbid Bob Dixon by £50 on ebay, ended up running a semi official Aprilia race team.
But to each his own.
I have a 750 Aprilia which is pleasant but doesn't get the juices flowing. I keep it for going into town because of the brakes and flickability. It does maybe 500 km a year out of the 8 to 10 000 I do. I'm considering part exchange for a 400 Triumph single which I'll go and try in the coming weeks.
Otherwise, it's old clunkers and small roads.
Paul
 
It’s off the brochure , rear wheel hp probably 80 - Pete Whitelegg who raced the Zanes for Alto made the comment below -

“We ran Formula engines with forced induction, Kent high lift cams, custom inlets with 916 throttle bodies with a programmable ECU achieving 96 bhp at the rear wheel and even the ex Baines factory racer only managed 92 I seem to remember. That is a respectable number for a 750 twin with a tractor engine crank! Peak power isn't everything and we beat many 1000 V twins in our time between myself & Phil Read Jnr as riders for Laverda Racing UK / Alto Performance 👌
Hi Adam - see the race bike story in the ILOC book. The first 750 S Formulas actually came in at 76bhp. The highest power achieved on the Semi Factory Baines bike was 107bhp.
For interest - the factory always said 70bhp for the 668s, but they always came in at about 63.5bhp when standard.

The point you make is bang on. Loads of modern middleweight bikes do not make more (real) power than the Zane bikes. The Zane bikes are plenty fast enough for UK roads I find. (Apart from in the dark 😁 that is). Modern bikes aren’t even more economical- the big difference is that they are cleaner (emissions) and quieter. You can decide what matters to you 🙂.
Ian
 
This will be the French 750 S Formula which Geoff Baines told me about when I was researching the race bike story for the ILOC book. At the World Sound of Thunder round at the Ducati Weekend at Assen, the French bike was fast and well ridden and was the only other Laverda which could hang with the Baines bike - it only really lost out on the fast straights when the Baines bike stretched its legs. (Ever competitive - Geoff points out that the Baines bikes were under geared for Assen and were running on the limiters - but even so, the carbed bike was impressive). The factory backed endurance race bikes were much slower.
 
Ian is right the standard 750 Formula was in the range of 70-80 bhp and the factory Trofeo version made around 90bhp, way short of the Alto and Baines bikes.
 
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