Laverda market and future

rbpjenkins

rbpjenkins

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what's your impression of the current market and future values?

I see that a really nice Jota 180 went up for £17K at auction at the weekend but sold for £15K. Has the market softened or is that what it would have got 2 years ago?

There's a generation of us that loved Laverdas when young, as we get older, will a younger generation still put the same value on them?
 
rbpjenkins said:
what's your impression of the current market and future values?

I see that a really nice Jota 180 went up for £17K at auction at the weekend but sold for £15K. Has the market softened or is that what it would have got 2 years ago?

There's a generation of us that loved Laverdas when young, as we get older, will a younger generation still put the same value on them?
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I think the market has softened. As well as my 180 I have a 76 z900A4 and I keep an eye on the prices for both. Lately the prices asked are still high but the buyers just don't seem to be there. A nice A4 on ebay has been listed for the third time of asking at £11,150. I think a year back it would have gone by now. Never planning to sell my old girls but interesting to note how many listings include phrases like ' the bike is now too heavy for me at my age '.
 
One things for sure is that as they get rarer some models will see a rise - have seen this with specific Japanese models for example Gamma 500 Suzuki and Honda RC45 - for Laverdas we just need to keep them going and hopefully prices stay constant - you can pay for a trailer Queen or you can still get on the road reasonably !
 
Prices will drop when the more mature men with cash who knew the bikes decades ago disappear.
Younger people have never heard of Laverda.
That and it will become increasingly difficult with coming legislation, to ride them.

So forget wondering what they're worth unless you intend buying one and ride them if you have one.
You won't take it with you when you go any way.

Be thankfull if the value goes down because the more valuable, the less ridden and we are motorcyclists, aren't we?

Paul
 
I can’t really disagree with you Paul, but in direct answer to the question it seems some fleabay sellers are asking and perhaps currently getting higher prices for Zane 650 sports. Prices on Breganze bikes seem to be a bit of a mixed bag, but I would say they are off their peak of a couple of years ago.
 
Andy J said:
I can’t really disagree with you Paul, but in direct answer to the question it seems some fleabay sellers are asking and perhaps currently getting higher prices for Zane 650 sports. Prices on Breganze bikes seem to be a bit of a mixed bag, but I would say they are off their peak of a couple of years ago.
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I have to admit that the only view of what's happening on ebay is via the Laverda forums.
I tend more to follow private ads and I mean follow in time. A good indication of the attractiveness of the machines and what buyers are ready to fork out.
I also follow the auction results.

It's near impossible to to conclude anything because of the very limited scope of the Laverda market, it's really a case of the right bike and the right buyer meeting up.

I should think the trend is down, and all the more so since world economies are likely to discover inflation again.
The price of 750 SFCs, apart from a few examples seems to have collapsed, though Marnix will no doubt correct me.

And there are niches very sensitive to geography, fads and fashion. That's the case of the Slater certified Jota and the Zane 650 Sports, unheard of outside of Greater Bermondsey. They don't reflect the wider world.

Paul
 
when you bought your Laverda as pure investment, then it would be probably wiser to have invested in the stock- or housing market as well as virtual coins... 10-20% in fluctuations on Laverda prices are peanuts in terms of budget and the same amount of money as a major service by an expert.

Most people buy new cars and loose 10 grand a year...
 
Beucars said:
when you bought your Laverda as pure investment, then it would be probably wiser to have invested in the stock- or housing market as well as virtual coins... 10-20% in fluctuations on Laverda prices are peanuts in terms of budget and the same amount of money as a major service by an expert.

Most people buy new cars and loose 10 grand a year...
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Many lose 10 grand, and more, the moment the thing is bought/registered! :rolleyes:

piet
 
When I buy a new car, every 20 years or so, it's hardly worth more than 10 grand, so I only loose 10 grand every 20 years.

Paul
 
Laverda ownership generally not good for those on a tight budget. Like Porsches. That being said, the seller of my bike probably made out pretty well. Would have paid more for it if it was really "with no issues". I don't believe we are exactly mainstream motorcyclists for the most part. I've been called eccentric on occasion.
 
Squeaky clean,low mileage,certified or whatever Jotas in the UK seem to be advertised around the £16-18k mark at the moment,an increase of about 4 or 5 grand over the last 4 or 5 years,but thats still only the price (or less) of a new litre sportsbike,so relatively good value compared to other Italian "exotica" from the `seventies.
Not so good for investors, but not the end of the world either.
One dealer in the UK advertises rebuilt 750 GT Bevels and Imola Reps in the £30-45k region,only genuine SFC`s are going to be able to step into the same ring as those as far as investment value is concerned.
Best not to worry too much about it and just enjoy the bike.
On the subject of young people and the future of a Laverda as a regularly used road going vehicle,I don`t think we are in a worse position than most other makes,or most motorcycles in general.
Had the Mirage parked outside the pub not so long ago,and in the space of about 30 minutes a bloke in his thirties stopped to look at it,then a couple in their early twenties actually crossed the road and spent a good seven or eight minutes studying it (I was starting to wish I`d bothered to clean it),then a bloke in a Ford Rallysport jacket walked over and started taking pictures of it.
My drinking partner (a nurse who knows nothing about bikes) says"It`s a bit like celebrity really,isn`t it?"
Theres always going to be some interest and value there,and the more people that see them out and about will always help.
Was waiting at some lights once also and a couple of teenagers walked by and I heard one say "What bikes that?"The other replied "A Laverda".
So the more people who see them out being used may increase interest and maintain a future market for them,even after the rest of the worlds gone electric.
 
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Was down the road at the Cudlee Cafe on Sunday, heaps of bikes of all types, a real cross-section of the motorcycle community. The Yellow Peril was the only bike that I saw being photographed, by old farts.
 
I predict prices will drop. Beside my Laverda's I have a number or British bikes and prices keep dropping on them. The reason is the age of the buyers. If you were 25 years old in 1965 and bought a new Triumph which you sold a few years later to get a Honda 750 and now want another 1965 Triumph, your now 81 years old and can't start it or ride it. A restored Triumph Bonneville that was worth $15,000 10 years ago is now worth $10,000.

That means a person who had a Laverda in 1975 at the same age is now 71 years old and they are getting older fast.

Younger rides have never heard of Laverda and don't want one. When I ride mine the only people who look at the bike are in their 60's like me.
 
Main problem is not so much young riders not wanting a Laverda but more a case of young people not wanting a motorcycle full stop.
Cheap cars and a convoluted training/licence procedure mean many can`t be bothered and the resulting image of riders being older means many regard it as being uncool.
 
Seems a lot of people want motorcycles here in South Aus, I go past a riding school on a regular basis and there are always people out learning to ride, in all weather.
My observation is that youngsters don't want an underpowered heavy bike (by modern standards), they want something they can mono and generally hoon about on. There are lots of relatively cheap 100hp bikes on the market and lets face it, when we were young were we interested in thirty year old bikes? No, we wanted the latest and fastest and most desirable thing on the road, like a Jota.
 
Paul Marx said:
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The price of 750 SFCs, apart from a few examples seems to have collapsed, though Marnix will no doubt correct me.


Paul
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Haven’t seen any sign of that, maybe your expectations were unrealistic?

There’s no such thing as ‘an SFC’, a lot depends on where and how a bike is offered, what its condition is, its history etc etc. A lot is based on trust and knowing what you buy, just like any other collectable item.

Marnix
 
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