Laverda - Odds and sods from the WWW

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I have what is known as a rather swathy complexion leading my family and friends to believe I must have some exotic ancestry. For a recent birthday I was bought one of those DNA kits. The results basically showed that my ancesters spent their times almost exclusively just north of Watford. The only excitement coming from a chance encounter with a wandering Viking.
 
I have no famous family connections.

My mother and sister were doing their family tree, in Ireland, they were looking for their grandparents home, all they had was a picture. They were stopped due to the procession of the Orange meeting the Green on the corner they were on.

My aunty pulled out a picture of the house and looked across the road and squealed like a girl….. fair point.

The house on the corner was their grandparents.
 
Perry said:
I have what is known as a rather swathy complexion leading my family and friends to believe I must have some exotic ancestry. For a recent birthday I was bought one of those DNA kits. The results basically showed that my ancesters spent their times almost exclusively just north of Watford. The only excitement coming from a chance encounter with a wandering Viking.
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My brother has been described as swarthy , turns out there is Trinidad - Creole on mothers side a hundred or so years ago.
I am currently in talks for some slavery reparation bunce and have submitted my CV to the BBC for a newsreaders job…
 
when Buffallo Bill toured his circus in the UK 1887 and 1889, he had an afair (something he did regularly but always stood by and financed his wife,?? bit weird) that lady was Viola Katherine Clemons note the "o" not an "a" as in my Clemans, this lady had two children by him, both boys, over the decades the spelling of my name has varied and in the past included Clemens, Clements and Clemance, I have a birth certifivate which shows the name spelt three different ways on the same piece of paper, such was the literacy of 125/175 years ago, Viola Katherine Clemons is widely thought to be a mis-write of Clemans, easilly done if literacy is not your best subject, getting a hand written lower case a interpreted (and copied) as an o, so I am a decendant of Buffallo Bill, just not on paper, it might explain why I like horses, and wildlife, leather clothing, runnning wild myself and can drop a candle at 200yards with my 303.
CLEM
 
Mainly for UK Members: In 2024, the Driver and Vehicle Licensing Agency (DVLA) and the Department for Transport (DfT) launched a call for evidence to gather views and evidence about the policies that govern the registration of rebuilt, kit-built, kit converted, radicallyaltered, reconstructed classics and vehicles converted to electric.
The consultation responses are laughably small because it was shut down early due to the general election.
It's not hard to smell their desire to have a German TUV-style system in place.
Full of really practical questions which show how deep (think graphene) their understanding of running a "classic" vehicle is:
"Question 3.8

If you think it’s appropriate to ensure the components used to build a vehicle must be more than 25 years old and within the period the model of vehicle was originally manufactured".

Oh, goody! A chance to source and fit 50 year old tyres and chains! That's going to make everything so much safer.

There's been an alarming tendency recently to impose legislation without 'grandfather rights' included. Not hard to see a dark future for Motodd/Harris/Martin/Egli framed Laverdas. I can easily see the DVLA trying to impose VINs of their own design on all those 4 digit bikes we ride around on.

About the only thing in the document that I agree with is:

"Question 5.1​


Do you think that DVLA should explore the option of setting up independent advisory groups to support the registration process for historic vehicles? Please provide evidence and reasons to support your views.


We received 539 responses to this question.


722 (70.0%) Yes (with 539 respondents adding a comment).


  • 64% (346) believe that DVLA should use motoring clubs or independent experts, not just government bodies

Involve experienced owners of classic cars and classic car clubs when you do this. A lot of people simply do not understand classic cars and/or their owners."
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The Sock said:
Mainly for UK Members: In 2024, the Driver and Vehicle Licensing Agency (DVLA) and the Department for Transport (DfT) launched a call for evidence to gather views and evidence about the policies that govern the registration of rebuilt, kit-built, kit converted, radicallyaltered, reconstructed classics and vehicles converted to electric.
The consultation responses are laughably small because it was shut down early due to the general election.
It's not hard to smell their desire to have a German TUV-style system in place.
Full of really practical questions which show how deep (think graphene) their understanding of running a "classic" vehicle is:
"Question 3.8

If you think it’s appropriate to ensure the components used to build a vehicle must be more than 25 years old and within the period the model of vehicle was originally manufactured".

Oh, goody! A chance to source and fit 50 year old tyres and chains! That's going to make everything so much safer.

There's been an alarming tendency recently to impose legislation without 'grandfather rights' included. Not hard to see a dark future for Motodd/Harris/Martin/Egli framed Laverdas. I can easily see the DVLA trying to impose VINs of their own design on all those 4 digit bikes we ride around on.

About the only thing in the document that I agree with is:

"Question 5.1​


Do you think that DVLA should explore the option of setting up independent advisory groups to support the registration process for historic vehicles? Please provide evidence and reasons to support your views.


We received 539 responses to this question.


722 (70.0%) Yes (with 539 respondents adding a comment).


  • 64% (346) believe that DVLA should use motoring clubs or independent experts, not just government bodies
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There may be a lot of reasons for this: mainly I think they can’t cope with anything that isn’t straightforward. I have registered four bikes recently that have had no paperwork, were imported prior to NOVA and weren’t UK spec or never imported officially for that matter. I have had no problem because by providing all the answers it makes the box tickers life easy. God knows how many they have in the system pending a vehicle inspection, awaiting photographic evidence, numbers not tallying, incorrect form filling, NOVA problems etc - if it doesn’t fit the box on the form they don’t know what to do . They seem very hot on the vehicle being mostly original and not a collection of bits ( non matching frame / engine etc) perhaps more to prevent stolen vehicles being “ rung” than from a roadworthy point of view. Saying that they gave me an age related plate for my last one in seven days which amazed me. Q registrations are now non transferable , it’s on a Q forever ( I got my Harley off a Q plate back in the nineties by providing a letter from Harley Davidson )
 
However, how many club 'specialists' agree? We've all witnessed the debates over what was or wasn't fitted and when a particular bike was completed and then actually passed out of the factory gates...
 
My biggest fear is whatever the outcome of the consultation the UK will introduce some overly bureaucratic system that the IOM will then blindly follow...:(
 
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