redfox
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Hi Vince & Bruce,
Most kind of you Bruce. Was that weight for both the handle and the added helmet lock?
My handle came in at 297 gr, so I suppose yours are with the helmet lock, which gives me another weight saving of some 53 gr.
Total weight saving som far is 21.740 grams.
Both of you:
I tried to describe some of the details of the Öhlins rear dampers, but I'll go in the garage and see if the prints are still there. It's been cleaned with rags a number of times. Dirt weighs.
So, generally speaking, when ordering you must specify the length of the damper you want - they choose a model which is closest to the original length. Fine tuning can be done by moving a thin steel thread like ring up or down in many steps. They then ask for the bikes weight and your weight incl. leathers, helmet and so on. And they ask if you are going to carry a passenger or not; same goes for luggage. Then you can add any other features as you like, if possible to build on to this model. Not all models can be altered.
After a short while, I asked them to built an extra length adjustability on to my set, so length does not affect the springs. This consists of a new lower eye and a bolt plus a blue locknut. Mine was a tad too long after installing them on to the SFC1000, so had them milled a bit. Then perfect.
I do lower the forks front ever so little, compared to standard length, so my inner tubes raise up a little bit more, thereby altering the angle, length etc.
I paid a very reasonable 4200,- Danish Kroner (DKK) or so some years ago. Possibly a bit more. At that time I had spent many hours searching abroad for a set built to spec, and they were nearly double the price, without the extra feature. As I wrote, I ended up with calling the Danish Öhlins importer, F.I. Motorcykler, Finn Ingeman, and had a talk with him, then ordering from hi,. Far cheaper and local to me.
If you want, I'll be happy to call him and ask what he has in stock and what can be done, price etc.
You got to give me some specs as I mentioned in the above: length between eyes not installed, features, spring strength, bike weight, plus you, evt. passenger etc. beforehand.
I tried 3 sets of springs, but found the two too soft for my liking. I want them to match the front and the characteristics of the bike. So ended up with the suggested standard spring from Öhlins, before they spec them. You can order extra springs at a reasonable price at the same time. It's really quick and easy to swap them. Note: on older sets, Öhlins turned them upside down, or maybe owners did. I installed them as per Öhlins.
Chambers are nitrogen filled under high pressure. They don't corrode easy, actually not at all, and stays nice and clean after years. They are totally rebuildable. Internals are highly polished and well valved. The gassing last a long time in my experience.
I'll try to find out numbers and post here, as it's long time ago.
The old bikes had a more upright placement, and are some 18mm shorter or so. I am sure Lothar or someone else will chime in here. Sometimes, and also on my bike, people install wrong dampers, such as the Koni or later Ikon dampers. They are all too short for the SFC1000, which makes the bike ride less optimal.
There are also other good alternatives. Both Lothars German made ones, and also Nitron from the UK and a few more, makes dampers for the SFC1000. In my experience, there is a world of difference between the Marzocchi/Koni/Ikon and the Öhlins, all in good condition.
Mind you, the French Fournales are really well working and is an air damper. Very simple, efficient and very light. I tried them and they work well.
Question: Since my bike had Koni, I'd really like to know the weight of the original Marzocchi Symbol. They were steel, not pure alloy as the Strada that came on the RGS and RGA as well as Corsa. It was also more adjustable than the Strada. All being longer in the body to suit these bikes with it's different frame.
Kind regards,
Jacques
Most kind of you Bruce. Was that weight for both the handle and the added helmet lock?
My handle came in at 297 gr, so I suppose yours are with the helmet lock, which gives me another weight saving of some 53 gr.
Total weight saving som far is 21.740 grams.
Both of you:
I tried to describe some of the details of the Öhlins rear dampers, but I'll go in the garage and see if the prints are still there. It's been cleaned with rags a number of times. Dirt weighs.
So, generally speaking, when ordering you must specify the length of the damper you want - they choose a model which is closest to the original length. Fine tuning can be done by moving a thin steel thread like ring up or down in many steps. They then ask for the bikes weight and your weight incl. leathers, helmet and so on. And they ask if you are going to carry a passenger or not; same goes for luggage. Then you can add any other features as you like, if possible to build on to this model. Not all models can be altered.
After a short while, I asked them to built an extra length adjustability on to my set, so length does not affect the springs. This consists of a new lower eye and a bolt plus a blue locknut. Mine was a tad too long after installing them on to the SFC1000, so had them milled a bit. Then perfect.
I do lower the forks front ever so little, compared to standard length, so my inner tubes raise up a little bit more, thereby altering the angle, length etc.
I paid a very reasonable 4200,- Danish Kroner (DKK) or so some years ago. Possibly a bit more. At that time I had spent many hours searching abroad for a set built to spec, and they were nearly double the price, without the extra feature. As I wrote, I ended up with calling the Danish Öhlins importer, F.I. Motorcykler, Finn Ingeman, and had a talk with him, then ordering from hi,. Far cheaper and local to me.
If you want, I'll be happy to call him and ask what he has in stock and what can be done, price etc.
You got to give me some specs as I mentioned in the above: length between eyes not installed, features, spring strength, bike weight, plus you, evt. passenger etc. beforehand.
I tried 3 sets of springs, but found the two too soft for my liking. I want them to match the front and the characteristics of the bike. So ended up with the suggested standard spring from Öhlins, before they spec them. You can order extra springs at a reasonable price at the same time. It's really quick and easy to swap them. Note: on older sets, Öhlins turned them upside down, or maybe owners did. I installed them as per Öhlins.
Chambers are nitrogen filled under high pressure. They don't corrode easy, actually not at all, and stays nice and clean after years. They are totally rebuildable. Internals are highly polished and well valved. The gassing last a long time in my experience.
I'll try to find out numbers and post here, as it's long time ago.
The old bikes had a more upright placement, and are some 18mm shorter or so. I am sure Lothar or someone else will chime in here. Sometimes, and also on my bike, people install wrong dampers, such as the Koni or later Ikon dampers. They are all too short for the SFC1000, which makes the bike ride less optimal.
There are also other good alternatives. Both Lothars German made ones, and also Nitron from the UK and a few more, makes dampers for the SFC1000. In my experience, there is a world of difference between the Marzocchi/Koni/Ikon and the Öhlins, all in good condition.
Mind you, the French Fournales are really well working and is an air damper. Very simple, efficient and very light. I tried them and they work well.
Question: Since my bike had Koni, I'd really like to know the weight of the original Marzocchi Symbol. They were steel, not pure alloy as the Strada that came on the RGS and RGA as well as Corsa. It was also more adjustable than the Strada. All being longer in the body to suit these bikes with it's different frame.
Kind regards,
Jacques
love fitted these to the Jota and so far they are proving to be a good upgrade over the earlier pair which have found a new home on another project of mine. These shocks have I think 16 clicks of compression and rebound . Preload obviously is infinitely adjustable by treaded collars.
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