Marc Marquez on Prime

I've watched the first couple of episodes - I'd recommend it. For me the Spanish spoken version with subtitles is the go, somehow listening to a dubbed American accent for all the participants just does not cut it. I had to use my laptop view it via the browser to enable the native language, whereas when I tried to watch on my smart TV using the Amazon app it did not give me the option. That might be my lack of knowing how to find that setting, but it isn't obvious. Didn't matter as I was able to cast the thing to my TV anyway.
 
I’m finishing up the series and two things stand out: like every champion he is a ferocious competitor and his family is hugely important to him.
 
Did the marathon thing and watched all 5 episodes (series 1) it is very interesting and shows the sacrifices Marquez made/makes to be a multi-time champion. Nothing in his life but his pursuit of the championship year after year, but very obvious he loves what he does and his family is 100% with him all the way. Dedication and amazing skill/talent.
What I found very sad was that when Mark decided to withdraw from the championship chase mid-season, and elect for invasive corrective surgery in the USA only one rider from the current GP field came to wish him well, Pol Espargo.
 
From Wikipedia:
Márquez won the 2010 125cc World Championship, the 2012 Moto2 World Championship, and the 2013, 2014, 2016, 2017, 2018 and 2019 MotoGP World Championships. He became the first rider since Kenny Roberts in 1978 to win the premier class title in his rookie season, and the youngest to secure the title overall.

I assume that you mean that he will never be Valentino Rossi? He also will never be Benny Hill, nor will be ever be Chris Rock or Eric Clapton. He could be Cameron Diaz someday, but he’s gonna have to go back to the Mayo Clinic first…..
 
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Love..rda said:
Marquez is a winner, but never he will be a champion.

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Anyone who wins a championship is a champion, and well deserved unless they cheated.
VR lost a lot of gloss for me when he took those mind games and shit too far, causing Marquez to quite literally run rings around him (before crashing out). Rossi didn't need it.
 
Much in the comments here, observation from life when i raced pushbikes. My mates were mates, until the start flag/bell went down, then you raced to win, at 13 years old i read every racing cyclist book could find, quickly became obvious that to win, did not require you to be best. You made efforts in learning mind control, especially in the pack, let alone before a race even starts. Dirty riding another key element, in the main to know what to do when a competitor pulls a dirty trick, it is not a one way thing, your receive and you give a dirty riding tactic.

Was extra good when Barry Sheene became a race caller out here, insight as to what was happening in reality on the track and TV screen. Bozo commentators of regular rubbish grade thought you win a race from the front... if you were not leading you were losing. Much missed is Barry as race caller professional.

Do wince and smile when someone is made out to be a mr nice guy and win races.... some of you whom raced will know the deal, what is reality and what is complete skills, whether fair or unfair, is part of that, Liked Rossi, i understood what he could bring to a race track, skill and freaking out the competition, pretty good at both.... next class of rider after Rossi is different again... BTW whom remembers Noriyuki Haga, desperate rider 100%, could win races, could take out fellow riders to win as required, others though he was notable...

There was a pro Japanese pushbike track racer in the 70's 80's whom rode like a madman, low center of gravity he would put the elbow into tall sprint riders in the banked bends, until he tangled with a tall Canadian racer with equal talent and dirty riding to call upon... Japanese rider went down 2 times in the best of three sprint races, in the third race he was carried off the track on a stretcher and looking well damaged. Make of that what you will.... sports are not clean... 1911 Le Tour, riders dosed up on Nitroglycerin.... j.
 
Haha, yes John, I remember when Daryl Eastlake would commentate with Barry. ”Doohan’s Honda has got the hippy hippy shake” was about all you’d get from Daryl o_O
 
Remember Daryl commenting on a car race at the Island; he started off slowly then worked himself up the fever pitch then slowly back down to his normal level of drivel. The thing is, nothing had happened out on the track.
 
iis_iis said:
Much in the comments here, observation from life when i raced pushbikes. My mates were mates, until the start flag/bell went down, then you raced to win, at 13 years old i read every racing cyclist book could find, quickly became obvious that to win, did not require you to be best. You made efforts in learning mind control, especially in the pack, let alone before a race even starts. Dirty riding another key element, in the main to know what to do when a competitor pulls a dirty trick, it is not a one way thing, your receive and you give a dirty riding tactic.
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Was the Canadian Curtis Hartnett, John? He still holds the outright record for the flying 200m in a track sprint (would have been a qualifying run).

I've raced motos and bicycles. In crits I was a total greenhorn and had the push and shove psych (move over or crash) tactics from one guy after I'd been through the grades and ended up in A in Vets comps. I decided to take someone's advice and start interval training. Never had a prob with that guy after that. I didn't need to resort to his tricks and he never again beat me in a sprint.

Interestingly I had a similar experience with one particular guy when I started racing the SF in the late 70s. Again I was a greenhorn. He'd shut the door as I was coming up the inside - he knew i was clearly faster in the turns. You learn and find ways around 'problems'.
 
Love..rda said:
Marquez is a winner, but never he will be a champion.

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Pffft. Take off your Italian glasses. Guy was a major prick to anyone who looked like being a rival.
Routinely used the sycophantic Italian media to do his dirty work for him. The ‘gypsy curse’ on Gibernau being a fine example - his team got caught cheating by track security but he went straight to the Italian media blaming Gibernau. Makes Phil Read look like a half decent bloke.

Personally, I’m glad he’s gone and we can get back to the cult of racing, rather than the cult of personality.
 
DaveB said:
Pffft. Take off your Italian glasses. Guy was a major prick to anyone who looked like being a rival.
Routinely used the sycophantic Italian media to do his dirty work for him. The ‘gypsy curse’ on Gibernau being a fine example - his team got caught cheating by track security but he went straight to the Italian media blaming Gibernau. Makes Phil Read look like a half decent bloke.

Personally, I’m glad he’s gone and we can get back to the cult of racing, rather than the cult of personality.
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Oh there is a cue for that, "Living Color" Cult of personality, top song as was many from Living Color, Wimbish good, rest of band, as good... j.
 
piranha-bro2 said:
Was the Canadian Curtis Hartnett, John? He still holds the outright record for the flying 200m in a track sprint (would have been a qualifying run).

I've raced motos and bicycles. In crits I was a total greenhorn and had the push and shove psych (move over or crash) tactics from one guy after I'd been through the grades and ended up in A in Vets comps. I decided to take someone's advice and start interval training. Never had a prob with that guy after that. I didn't need to resort to his tricks and he never again beat me in a sprint.

Interestingly I had a similar experience with one particular guy when I started racing the SF in the late 70s. Again I was a greenhorn. He'd shut the door as I was coming up the inside - he knew i was clearly faster in the turns. You learn and find ways around 'problems'.
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May well be correct!! Wow i could never have recalled the Canadian rider, Curtis. He was good, so was the Japanese rider if not for the tactics. Racing push bikes was very rewarding for later motorcycle skills, the brakes on my Laverda are like new, hardly used, when your the motor you do not waste leg power, a smile here.

Better to be a good skilled rider of course, like you Dave, on the job training was just that, learn or be flattened. Have put the elbow into a much bigger rider than me, surreal to watch him bounce along the road next to me, days of Christophe clips and Alfredo Binda leather straps and shoe blocks, only thing that was contacting the road was his body.... life lesson in a moment. There were the "fun" things of course, releasing your mates back wheel ( road frame dropouts ) flicking the quick release lever, Ditto their seat post quick release, all while riding or racing, pulling his racing shorts waist under his seat, grabbing his front brake lever as you pass your mate...had to be quick with that one..knocking his gear change lever into high gear as you pass... while riding at 130kph ( Laverda ) came up along side my mate and put my hand on his back to have a chat...he was not amused... i was... great fun... close form riding... and rambling...j
 
iis_iis said:
May well be correct!! Wow i could never have recalled the Canadian rider, Curtis. He was good, so was the Japanese rider if not for the tactics. Racing push bikes was very rewarding for later motorcycle skills, the brakes on my Laverda are like new, hardly used, when your the motor you do not waste leg power, a smile here.
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Saw Curtis Harnett race here in Adelaide against the likes of Gary Neiwand at Gepps Cross Velodrome. With my late Dad. Great memory. Thanks for triggering the synapses…
 
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