MotoGadget M-Unit Blue light config

tiwang

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hi out there
The M-Unit has some usefully - but also annoying - ways of configuration the light - low beam - high beam - driving light etc
I am a bit in doubt about what fits best. I am using the original "suzuki" buttoms so this switch on and off of the light is a bit different of how it is intended - by MotoGadget. I think it is annoying that i cannot switch-off the light when i "switch it off" - or maybe is it just me being confused about that i cannot switch off the light.
Which options for the light has been used to get a satisfying result ?
 
If you want to be able to switch the headlight off, you can get around the M-Unit's refusal to let you do that with some additional wiring and a couple of relays (or one DPDT relay). I designed a wiring diagram for another forum member a few years ago that solved the same issue on his 180° triple. I may have put it in the Library section. Yes, here it is: https://laverdaforum.com/resources/wiring-diagram-with-motogadget-m-unit.112/
 
Hi again
Thanks for sharing - do you know which config he used for the M-Unit ? I have the version with BT so the configuration is a bit simpler but as far as i know the menu's are the same
 
Hi tiwang. I only designed the wiring system. I didn't do the installation because the bike was on the other side of the world, about as far away from me as you can get without leaving the planet. So I didn't get into any of the M-Unit configuration stuff. I left that to the bike's owner. The documentation he sent me for the M-Unit was Version 1.8 if that's any help.
 
Hi tiwang. I only designed the wiring system. I didn't do the installation because the bike was on the other side of the world, about as far away from me as you can get without leaving the planet. So I didn't get into any of the M-Unit configuration stuff. I left that to the bike's owner. The documentation he sent me for the M-Unit was Version 1.8 if that's any help.
ahhh it is Grant from Scotland? Grant Duguid if I spell the name correct?
 
I am going to fit an M-Unit this winter. Right now I use a special headlight relay that has the option to leave the light off until you activate it it with a button push. But then you have to remember to turn the light on before you go off... They also have other trick stuff - somethimg similar to the M-Box that is split in to smaller boxes that are just connected with a tiny BUS wire. So you have a tiny box sitting in the front of the bike and a tiny one at the back, making for even more minimal wiring. I thinks Paul would be especially into this.

Headlight Relay Digital Harness

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There are other pdms than motogadget, some allow full configuration of all the io so you can make it do what you want. M-unit seems only to work well when used in the exact way mg intended (choppers with their push button switches).
 
ahhh it is Grant from Scotland? Grant Duguid if I spell the name correct?
Yes. It's Grant's bike I did the M-Unit wiring diagram for. I'm not sure the wiring system that we ended up with made life any easier for him than it would have been without the M-Unit. But he seemed to have his heart set on using the unit. He wasn't confident with wiring so I think he was sold on the idea that the unit would make everything simple, and he'd already bought the unit before properly considering the pros and cons. So I got the feeling that was committed to using it. That's when he approached me for help. I did what was necessary to make it work the way he wanted.

There are other pdms than motogadget, some allow full configuration of all the io so you can make it do what you want. M-unit seems only to work well when used in the exact way mg intended (choppers with their push button switches).
I agree. I'm not convinced the M-Unit is the best way to go for the average classic bike that has a relatively simple electrical system with conventional handlebar switches. Especially if you end up having to add relays to get around the default settings of the M-Unit. You end up making the wiring more complicated to accommodate the M-Unit.
 
Well i think MG really should review their options there - it feels really stupid not to be able to turn off the light - if either the handlebar switches or their own buttoms turn off the light it should turn off the light. It is not the way forward to implement tweaks like adding relays to get what you want instead of have a option for this in their sw - eg: alter the sw instead of the hw
 
It might play a role that regulations for new motorcycles have changed to require low-beam headlights or daytime running lights to be permanently switched on. And that MG therefore sees function to switch off the lights as obsolet.
 
Yes. It's Grant's bike I did the M-Unit wiring diagram for. I'm not sure the wiring system that we ended up with made life any easier for him than it would have been without the M-Unit. But he seemed to have his heart set on using the unit. He wasn't confident with wiring so I think he was sold on the idea that the unit would make everything simple, and he'd already bought the unit before properly considering the pros and cons. So I got the feeling that was committed to using it. That's when he approached me for help. I did what was necessary to make it work the way he wanted.


I agree. I'm not convinced the M-Unit is the best way to go for the average classic bike that has a relatively simple electrical system with conventional handlebar switches. Especially if you end up having to add relays to get around the default settings of the M-Unit. You end up making the wiring more complicated to accommodate the M-Unit.
I spoke to Grant about the installation and later had a chance to see it for real. It gave him the opportunity to make a really neat and tidy loom but the M-unit didn't really eliminate much of the original wiring. On the contrary, some wires needed to run back and forth to the M-unit while the original would have done with a 1/4 of the length of wire. He did an extremely nice job of it though, it belongs to the tidiest I've ever come across.

He wasn't over-enthusiastic about it and never installed another as far as I'm aware.

piet
 
I rewired my mirage a few years ago with m. unit . However I used their push button handlebar switches which make things easier. Headlight comes on automatically when engine runs (not when starter is cranking) but can be turned off with a long push on the dip button. Indicators are harley/BMW push on / push off but other wise all is normal. The only relay is for the starter motor.
In all honesty if I probably wouldn't use it again, there's no space problem on laverdas especially with the big old battery replaced with a modern one. Might as well use ordinary (much cheaper ) relays erc.
The quality of the wiring and connectors is more important than anything in
 
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