OR600 Atlas engine guard

Maggi

Maggi

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Hello to all,
I ride an OR600 Atlas (series 1) and would like to replace the defective original plastic engine guard with a sturdier aluminum one.
Does anyone have experience with this?
Fits perhaps an engine guard from another motorcycle manufacturer, or can this be made to fit?
Greetings from Bavaria / Germany
Markus
 
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Don't know, I have never had a good look at one. The website below recons the plastic ones are better than they look. Maybe a sand bag and a wooden rounded mallet plus a sheet of 4mm alloy and copy the plastic one. I wonder if anyone has found an engine guard that might work as highway pegs to stretch your legs on long rides. BTW there are very rare bikes, apparent 400 made and not much discussion happens about them anywhere I have found. Lots of great info here.

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Hello Vince,
yes, I'm beginning to get the feeling that the Altas is indeed "the" exotic par excellence among the Laverdas.
The Atlas was not very popular at the time, with only 450 sold, and that still seems to be the case today, although I do enjoy riding it and we are becoming more and more friends.
The website of Franky I know and I have also already got one or the other very helpful tip from him directly.
Greetings
Markus
 
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Hi Markus, directly above there is a search function for posts here, don't use the one on the right side. Over the years there have been some Atlas posts so it's worth a search here. From my knowledge there are 2 in Oz, I had a short ride of one 5 years ago and would love to own one. But I doubt that will happen anytime soon. How long have you had one and how does it go, any info would be good to maybe get some talking about Atlas ownership and use. I would like to learn more about these models, especially any issues that they have had. The 4 valve engines seem to be pretty high-strung looking from afar.
 
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How did it work as a sump guard being plastic, I kind of doubt they go jumping big logs much usually. Any issues with the bike over the years? Like I said I have an interest in how they are as an Adventure bike or even just for a day or long multiday tours for comfort at modern speeds. Are any suspension mods required?
 
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Vince said:
How did it work as a sump guard being plastic, I kind of doubt they go jumping big logs much usually. Any issues with the bike over the years? Like I said I have an interest in how they are as an Adventure bike or even just for a day or long multiday tours for comfort at modern speeds. Are any suspension mods required?
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Hi Vince,
I have not had my Mk2 Atlas for long, a little over 1,00km since purchase.
Observations so far:-
There is a horrible step in the electronic ignition (or maybe the feeling?) at about 2,800- 3,500rpm. Unpleasant in urban environment!
Above 3,500rpm engine flies, appears very happy revving to 8k+.
No issues keeping pace safely with modern traffic speeds, will cruise very comfortably at 125km/hr. It is a comfortable ride, I see no issue in using for long distance touring.
A hoot in the twists on tarmac.
I am not skilled in off-road riding, Atlas will exceed my competence!! I have done a few miles of gravel roads, no dramas to report.
I am enjoying it
 

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Ignition curve or carb issue at 2800 to 3500rpm. Sounds unpleasant. I think Grant played with jetting for the same issue with his and didn't help it much. I wonder if an Ingatech would fit and sort this. Maybe you could adapt another parallel twin engined Adventure bikes alloy baseplate to fit. There are quite a few from BMW and Suzuki plus others. As usual, it's the mounting system that would be different with maybe some panel beating needed as well. Nor sure how serious you would be going on a close to 200kg dirtbike.
 
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Hello together,
ahead something to me, respectively the atlas.
I am a fan of the 80s enduros and therefore I own some Japanese models (Yamaha XT600 Z Ténéré 34L and 1VJ, Honda XL600 LM PD04).
As you can see my focus is on air cooled, big tank, e-start, chain drive and because I also use the parts "species-appropriate" I do not like a frame-fixed fairing.
So it was obvious to look over the Japanese edge of the plate to Italy and so I started at the beginning of 2022 to look for a Cagiva 650 Elefant, Moto Morini 501 Camel or an Atlas.
Surprisingly, after a short time I was offered an Altas from northern Germany and so it happened that I had the rarest motorcycle of the three after only 2 months of searching and 1,500km with the trailer in my hall.
The Atlas was driven by the previous owner much and with pleasure, from there it is technically on a very good state, is called the starter mechanics was taken over from a 668, the clutch springs strengthened and also the ignition was allowed to give way to an electronic execution.
Maybe it's the ignition, but my Atlas knows no "hole" between 2,800 and 3,500 rpm!?
I just turned again last Sunday morning an 80km round through our "Western Woods" and can say that I get along with the Atlas better and better.
Sure the Atlas is considerably heavier than, for example, an XT600 Ténéré, but it also has more power and running culture.
What is also noticeable, the Atlas wants due to the 2 cylinder simply more speed, that is, in the really demanding terrain it is not easy and if then only with the help of the clutch to drive, which means torque is generally not the strength of the Atlas.
I like the Atlas well on gravel roads or small winding country roads with poor quality of the tar surface.
Oh yes, maybe a tip to possible Atlas off-road drivers, never with a full tank in the botany, because it becomes top-heavy without end!
On the subject of engine guards, I have 2 defective pieces of it lying in the hall, both are broken at the front attachment. Also makes me the thin hard plastic not the most stable impression, certainly not when I think of Croatian or Italian limestone throw from the front wheel.
I hope to have brought you my "exotic" something closer and look forward to many more kilometers in a relaxed sitting position with her.
Greetings
Markus

PS. Pictures from the previous owner
 

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Good info, yes I would also like a Cagiva 650 Elefant. Watching those maniacs at 180kph in open terrain in The Dakar was amazing viewing back then. Many years ago a mate headed off on an extended trip around Oz on an XR600 Honda and later said never again on a big single. Are you saying your bike runs a different ignition to standard and has no problem with smooth running? Do you know what ignition it has? Yes, I have read about fitting a Zane starter sprag. Hope we get others replying to this thread.
 
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Hi James,
The standard ignition system is same has found on 500.
Your problem where there appears to be a 'step' is more likely to be carb related, and I would advise removing carb and giving it a clean. ideally in a Ultrasonic tank. Thinking aloud try adjusting the 'accelerator' (for what of a better name) screw , that is sitting underneath the carb. This may be putting too much or too little fuel at that speed.
Andy
 
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There was a time when roof gutters on houses in Australia were made of some kind of plastic, and then it was discovered that UV light made it brittle and break easily, maybe the plastic bash plates on Atlases become brittle over time.
 
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Hallo

hier ist eine Produktinformation (leider nur auf Deutsch) über die Karte Zündung 1.0 von 1988 von der Firma Moto Witt, die in meinem Atlas immer noch gut funktioniert.
Wenn jemand technische Informationen zu dieser Zündung benötigt, wenden Sie sich bitte direkt an mich.

Die Dokumente, die ich mit meinem Atlas erhalten habe, enthalten auch "Serviceinformationen Laverda OR 600" der Firma Witt.
Am Ende wohl nur eine Übersetzung aus dem italienischen Handbuch, aber mit technischen Ergänzungen und Tipps und damit einem interessanten Zeitdokument.

@Vince
UV (Sonne) und Plastik kommen prinzipiell nie miteinander aus (Ausnahmen bestätigen die Regel), ABER mit den Kunststoffteilen des Atlas kann ich Entwarnung geben.
Die Teile sind farbig (zumindest die Weißen), dick, zäh und sehr stabil, so dass die Möglichkeit besteht, oberflächliche Schäden zu schleifen und zu polieren.
Sicher, das ist sehr zeitaufwendig, aber meiner Meinung nach viel besser als Malen.
Letztlich ist es "nur" eine Enduro ...

Gruß
Markus
 

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Hello,

here is a product information (unfortunately only in German) about the map ignition 1.0 from 1988 from the company Moto Witt which still works fine in my Atlas.
If someone needs technical information about this ignition, please contact me directly.

The documents I got with my Atlas also contain "Service information Laverda OR 600" (again only in German) of the company Witt.
In the end probably only a translation from the Italian manual, but with technical additions and tips and thus an interesting time document.

@Vince
UV (sun) and plastic never get along in principle (exceptions confirm the rule), BUT with the plastic parts of the Atlas I can give the all-clear.
The parts are colored (at least the whites), thick, tough and very stable, so there is a chance to sand and polish superficial damage.
Sure this is very time consuming, but in my opinion much better than painting. Ultimately, it is "only" an Enduro ...

Greeting
Markus

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I've worn out 3 Atlas's.
A good bike for touring tho' not a bike for high mileages like the SF or 3C as the fundamental build quality isn't the same. If you're doing weekend riding you'll be fine.
I fitted a Sachse ignition which works well - the original ignition is not good, especially the motoplat stuff on the Mk 3s
If you drop a Mk 3 it is probable you'll damage the oil cooler that hangs out past the engine. Single oil cooler on Mk 1 and 2 is sufficient.
Speedo is prone to failure as the gearbox in the wheel seizes up.
Excellent upgrade is a Zane sprag clutch as the original is poorly made and has very fine tolerances before it slips. Slipping isn't helped by a battery which is too small and fades. You can squeeze a HD Sporster battery in there.
Starting is eccentric - every one I own requires a different technique. I've had no issue with the carb...although the inlet rubbers are very hard to find. I've seen neat twin carb settups.
The hardening on the gearbox output shaft and starter sprag ring gear is poor. Check especially for a loose gearbox sprocket as the chatter will ruin the shaft quickly.
The mono shock suspension has a plethora of plain bearings - the bushes are a bespoke Laverda size - OCT stocked them.
The front brake is a rare P5 item. The floating disc is very rare - also found on Cagiva Elefant. The pins in the rear calipher rattle their locating pins - when you lose the pins the pads drop and lock the back wheel (how do I know this...) so worth checking if these need replacing with bolts.
Hope that's a useful summary.
Nick :-)
 
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