Paris terrorist attacks

I think it is time the moslem community not only SAYS they disagree with this but also change something on their side and stand up against islamism. It was with split emotions that the Paris Imam that right after the attack said this is against Islam and against free press was the same Imam that took the magazine to court 2 or 3 years ago. If he changed his mind - great! Hopefully more do so and articulate that. If this was just to avoid being connected to the action itself - well...

A risky strategy- this blogger got a 1 mil riyal fine, 10 years in chokey and 1000 lashes...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-30744693

 
Yes, interesting indeed. Poor sod.
Yet while he goes severely punished wealthy Saudis are crossing the causeway into Bahrain and are fucking sad old Russian prostitutes 5 at a time because they are not allowed to have any contact with the opposite sex unless they have an arranged marriage. Talk about a fucked up society.
Mind you, I agree with the fact they don't let women drive. Bloody dangerous behind a wheel they are..... :o :o :o

Cheers
DoC!
 
I have no idea what effects the sudden collapse of the price of oil will have but I hope it results in s few regime changes in the Arab world,anyone remember the Arab spring,that died in the arse real quick.There is a Ozzie Jurno doing 10 years in gaol for reporting on stuff the Egyptians don't like on TV.Not actually engaged in anything,just talking about it.Lucky he wasn't flogged,1000 lashes,over weeks,thats just insane.And the west deals with these arseholes,virtualy props them up on occasion.Better verual Nazis than Fundamentalists,some choice.
 
No use looking for commonality of logic and reason in a race of people who happily wipe their arses with their hands yet consider a bacon sandwich to be unclean.


      Keith
 
Paddy said:
I wonder what sort of world the jew sitting waiting for the Germans to turn the gas on thought he lived in.

I couldn't let that one go!

Jews, communists, jehovahs witnesses, gypsies, homosexuals, the mentally retarded, prisoners of war,criminals and anyone they didn't like much were rubbed out in all sorts of fiendish ways by the nazis.
These people were killed with Zyklon B crystals(a pest killing gas), exhaust fumes, starvation, hanging, shooting, freezing, beating, phenol injections to the heart etc.

As for the outrage in Paris, I think the real culprits are the people that brainwash their lackies to do these evil deeds. These evil gits never get involved directly.
 
I have no idea what effects the sudden collapse of the price of oil will have

A Bear with a sore head on our doorstep will be one of them.  Very scary.
 
For now, the results of the three days is very heavy:

13 civilian deaths + 4 serious injuries
3 dead in the police
3 dead Islamists

Thank you to the whole world for your supporting messages to France
 
The first thing that we need to do is call them what they are, mass murderers. The word "Terrorist" has been used for so long that just like the shit these assholes do we have become de-sensitized to that word and it's really been "accepted" with an "oh well". That is unless it's in your country, city, or neighborhood. Another thing, if they live their life according to their spiritual leaders and their "book" then they are doing what they feel they need to do. This is just the tip of the iceberg. Here in the states guys with shaved heads are the target of the government, but not these so called loving people, just look at the Boston bombers. Our king does not see a problem with them at all.
 
From the Huffington Post

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IS have killed a few western people, people they consider infidels etc, but a fact to keep in mind is that they have kill over forty thousand of their own in just over two years. Fucked up world man.!

  FFF
 
yes, is a fucked up world and getting worse as everyone keeps breeding at an alarming rate so is going to be far worse for the next generation, let alone their kids

I was in the middle of Pakistan drilling for BP on 9/11, only white fucker onsite, we got evacuated the next day out of Pakistan
was night time there and my 2IC came up onto the rig floor to ask me to go and turn my TV on in my bedroom, I had a sat feed whereas the main camp just had normal TV which was a very snowy reception, he told me there was something going down in New York but that they could not get good enough reception to work out what, my reply was they were watching a Bruce Willis movie but he insisted so I lined the driller out with instructions and went down to my office, there were about 18 senior Pakistani guys waiting for me so we all crowded into my bedroom and turned the TV on, nearly every channel had a live feed going, we were in time to see the 2nd plane go in live, no one was cheering on the rig site, was a credit to them but they were also mainly highly educated people, petroleum and drilling engineers mostly.

I said to them that night that someone has seriously pissed the Americans off and that the world was never going to be the same again, at the time I had no idea how true that statement was going to be

spent another 2 years in Pakistan after 9/11 before heading to the Soviet countries
 
Davo said:
A free press does not mean they are free to vilify people on the basis of race, religion, colour etc. Disgust with what the terrorists have done does not necessarily infer support for the magazine's philosophy or printed articles.

It's not what they do with Charlie Hebdo

They laud secularism

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlie_Hebdo

Amicalement

Xavier
 
Paul H said:
I found that the recent words of Salman Rushdie chimed exactly with my feelings...

"Religion, a medieval form of unreason, when combined with modern weaponry, becomes a real threat to our freedoms. This religious totalitarianism has caused a deadly mutation in the heart of Islam and we see the tragic consequences in Paris today. I stand with Charlie Hebdo, as we all must, to defend the art of satire, which has always been a force for liberty and against tyranny, dishonesty and stupidity. ?Respect for religion? has become a code phrase meaning ?fear of religion.? Religions, like all other ideas, deserve criticism, satire and, yes, our fearless disrespect".


I completely agree

Xavier
 

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paparracas said:
If a believer demands that I, as a nonbeliever, observe his taboos in the public domain, he is not asking for my respect, but for my submission.

You've hit the nail on the head there mate. Organised religion is not about belief in a deity. It's about subjugating people. The taboos are all part of that subjugation. People can believe in whatever idiotic mythology they like a far as I'm concerned. Personal beliefs or faith are harmless and have little to do with structured religious laws. It's the use of religion by those seeking power to control people that I despise. I rank organised religion on a par with drug-related crime as a social evil.

However, I find it difficult to escape the conclusion that the perpetrators of such murderous violence are not necessarily religious zealots. They are more likely to be sociopaths who use perverted religious dogma as justification for their hideous actions. If they didn't have religious extremism, they would probably find some other equally demented cause to hitch their wagons to.
 
Dellortoman said:
It's the use of religion by those seeking power to control people that I despise. I rank organised religion on a par with drug-related crime as a social evil.

I'm with you there, Cam: Religion has been used as a means of power attainment and social control since the dark ages and before. The Catholic church and other branches of Christianity have seen their power decline due to secularism and modern freedoms generally. Perhaps it's a perceived religious power vacuum in the west that the moslem zealots are eager to fill..

Dellortoman said:
However, I find it difficult to escape the conclusion that the perpetrators of such murderous violence are not necessarily religious zealots. They are more likely to be sociopaths who use perverted religious dogma as justification for their hideous actions. If they didn't have religious extremism, they would probably find some other equally demented cause to hitch their wagons to.

I hear where you're coming from, however, I'm not convinced of this argument. Whilst these 'henchmen of Allah' have obviously committed atrocious murders, I don't think they see it that way (cue the sociopath definitions). Pretty much all murderers know they are committing wrongful acts, yet I'm not sure these guys think the same way. They take instructions from their Imam and the Koran: to them it's a holy war and all sins committed are forgiven. According to the Moslem faith we are all Infidels: we and our laws are not respected and our lives worth nothing. It seems the Koran contains over 100 passages urging the 'believer' to kill Infidels wherever they may be hiding.. With doctrines like this it's hard to be relaxed living in a Secular society let alone a Moslem one.

To pass off recent events in Boston, Toronto, Sydney, Paris etc as Lone Wolf attacks by sociopathic murderers is perhaps to miss the point. Al Quaeda and other 'extreme' Islamist groups have declared that it is their intention to see the Moslem faith prevail throughout the world and have declared War on the west. It could well be that we are presently seeing that war expanding onto our own doorsteps. Though the numbers of active 'jihadists' in the west may be few it doesn't take many of them to destabilise the govts of the west through chaos and fear.

Dark days indeed...

 
And yet this didn't even make the news here....what a racist bunch of carnts we are....

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/b2d7a0252dd04676b20697bd39356fcc/7-kids-reunite-parents-lost-nigeria-islamic-uprising
 
Make a carnage in a newsroom, and be killed on the premises of a printing ....

The guys from "CHARLIE HEBDO" would certainly have made a very crisp picture with it.

If all sides, the word "respect" still had a sense, these tragedies would not exist!

Democracy and globalism have not, by definition, means to fight against terrorism.
 
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