Paris terrorist attacks

I'm confused now!

I have just read an article written by a muslim saying that the prophet Mahammad was a tolerant person who allowed different faiths(and non-faiths) to co-exist side by side. Also that the Koran forbids killing in the honour of the faith. He also says that extremist imams have twisted the good book to suit their own prejudices.

The extremist top brass are the people that I believe are the real culprits, the ones at the top of the terrorist heirarchy who will not sacrifice their own lives but load the bullets for someone else to fire - very clever!
They brainwash those of more feeble minds to believe that evil is good.
 
SimonR501 said:
I'm confused now!
I have just read an article written by a muslim saying that the prophet Mahammad was a tolerant person who allowed different faiths(and non-faiths) to co-exist side by side. Also that the Koran forbids killing in the honour of the faith.

Apparently the Koran tells the faithful to protect the churches and temples of the alternative faiths, seems not to happen too much though
 
Simon, when i said "turn the gas on" its was a figure of speech i used to simplify what could have been a 30 page essay had i gone into detail of the many forms of execution. Remember Nazi's were radicalised without religion.  Religion was not really the cause of IRA bombings. While i detest all religions the fact is anyone can radicalise anyone. Even soldiers are basically radicalised to kill on command  :D the truth is Humans as an animal have a long way to go before we evolve to the standards we set our selves. some just have further to go than others.
 
Gerald said:

Right, that's a Fatwa on your ass*... :o

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*yeah, I know it's arse.



 
Fark in hell Reggie! A super photo, but black bike, black helmet and dark clothing! You really don't want to be seen do you?
Hopefully all the other stupid blinkard road users in cars will see you coming, though I doubt it.  :o
Lighten up why don't you? At least wear a flourescent bib for Christ's sake......
Cheers
DoC!
 
Ah well, perhaps from the rear I'm a bit inconspicuous,although the yellow Wolfman bag helps and there's reflective stuff on my jacket and on the lid, but from the front I got all those farkin' HID lights, and if comeone misses them I'll take their white stick an' shove it...  :D
 
OMG! Just the tip of the iceberg. No wonder UK is going tits up?
Tell her to feck off back to France and leave our benefits to those that really deserve them.....
As said, we are far far too tolerant.

I hope the UK government rejects the use of the Burka in UK soon, though I can't see any lilly livered politician in UK ever doing that.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/terrorism-in-the-uk/11337056/Charlie-Hebdo-terror-mentors-wife-on-benefits-in-Leicester.html

 
some of you need to read the koran and understand it in accordance with the interpretation of islamic theological institutions and universities.

there are basically 2 sets of revelations that mohammed had, eg the first in his earlier years when his own people threw him out of mecca and then medina because of his 'beliefs', when he needed the help of christian and jewish communities which allowed him to live amongst them and the later ones when after a successful career as a desert bandit, he established his belief system, became powerful and no longer needed them. hence we have, be good to christians and jews, they are people of the book, later followed by, do not trust them they are pigs and monkeys etc., etc.

in islamic theology, the later revelations supercede the earlier ones, the result of allah changing his mind 'cos he got it wrong the first time

as far as i can see from reading their book, the people who committed these acts in paris, the is, al qaeda, boko haram, et al are good muslims following the edicts of their founder, a man who of himself said he thought he was possessed by a jinn

the problem isn't the people themselves, many of them are wonderful people, it's their book, which advocates actions which are illegal in all western countries.
 
From: Metamorphosis, Dounia Bouzar  http://www.bouzar-expertises.fr/metamorphose

She is involved here in France, among others, to research related to the prevention and treatment of indoctrination of radical Islam.

V.1 THE REDEFINING OF THE CONCEPT OF "JIHAD"

Activists radicals are the fight against the disbelievers, Jews and Christians, but also against all Muslims "depraved" the basic principle of Islam. They will impose violence as an obligation, a proof of faith, since this would be the only way to fight the pagan values that govern the world. For this, they turn the concept of jihad, which means first effort of the believer to fight against what is contrary to his ethics: lying, envy, jealousy ... Literally, the word means "effort in the way of God. "This inner spiritual and moral jihad is primarily a commitment to yourself.

It is only under very strict conditions that he can become an armed jihad, established by the authority of the state and not by individuals, only in self-defense* (as in other religions ) which is regarded in the Islamic tradition as the "lesser jihad" or "defensive jihad".

Terrorists have redefined the concept of jihad. Normally in Islam, only a government can decide to get in self-defense if its territory is attacked, and under strict conditions. There is a link between people, territory and the decision of the government, only able to judge whether the conditions are met to decide that there was self-defense. Jihad is never individual: as in other monotheistic religions, only God decides the life of a man.

This is a close of bin Laden, Abdullah Azzam, who broke with fourteen centuries of interpretation of Islam: he decided that jihad was a personal obligation for every Muslim whatever attacked territory. Zawahiri, another key figure in al-Qaida, then systematic elimination of "Interior infidels"; ie those who were not in agreement with this reinterpretation.

* "Any authorization to defend is given to victims of aggression, which were unjustly oppressed ..." (Qur'an, 22/39); "Fight in the way of Allah those who fight you, never exceed the permitted limits, for God does not love transgressors" (Qur'an 2/190); "If they incline to peace, do the same by giving yourself to God ...." (Qur'an, 8/61).


I  joined Lothar which speaks of the escheat of young people, their lack of education, see consideration, which leads to being indoctrinated by terrorists who use religion as a pretext and justification for their crime, for the purpose of power

These sociopaths find their way through indoctrination, and the number is growing exponentially. Dounia Bouzar in agreement with the French government has created a deprogramming center and a website to help parents who think their child is headed in these extremism

After the attack symbolic of Charlie Hebdo, the hostage taking of the Hyper Kacher de Vincennes, the silent marches across the country (700 000 people), these of this Sunday in Paris with the heads of state Europeans, I think we will continue to act as Dounia Bouzar and others, and that governments find solutions against this falsely religueux terrorism

In fact, we are all concerned

Xavier
 
henry said:
there are basically 2 sets of revelations that mohammed had

Maybe he'll write 'Revelation Mk3' when the virgin factory relocates to China to reduce mfg costs. Mind, the made in China jobbies will be fucked pretty quickly :LOL: and will need to comply to the one child policy.
 
Maintaining the same direction with the blinders on we will soon find one with the same fate. Pity for those that live in countries that don't have laws that allow the ownership or possession of a well crafted firearm. In the US those that have a CCP, and that have been in similar situations, have at least had a fighting chance with most cases ending the situation before it became a massacre. The zealots have no problem getting their weapons and using them, while pacifism leads to an earlier than expected demise.
 
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