Paris terrorist attacks

henry said:
the whole philosophy of islam is driven by intimidation and fear and wherever you find it it was brought by the sword
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Sounds a lot like the Catholic Church, although they have moderated their behaviour somewhat over the last couple of hundred years. I'm sure they miss the good old days of the inquisition.
 
The thing about the inquisition was..no one expected it.  :D

This thread has become rather pointless now, its a world problem that will not be solved by discussion here. The simple answer is to bury your head in the sand, that's what i do. I gave up with news papers years ago, i rarely watch the news. Most of it does not concern me and there is little i can do about it. You have two choices, You can read about this stuff, worry yourself stupid about it, spoil each day by getting worked up, even here on what should be your leisure hobby time......or you can leave it to the politicians, enjoy every day while you can and keep these things in proportion. Wicked as they are they are a very small event that barely figures in the history of the world. :)
 
Put it this way, there is nothing i can do on a personal level. The world has been in conflict every day of my life. . You can make of recent events what you like !! 99% of it is media hype, it sells newspapers, Terrorists rely on these news papers for the oxygen of publicity, no doubt something will happen tomorrow that will sell even more newspapers and this French affair will be relegated to the side lines and disappear in a week. the sad fact is the more these things are openly discussed the more the atrocity succeeds.
 
We tend to agree that the Lucrative Few within the Co-operate WAR Machine Rules Politics, Finance at no expense of our Lives or the Health of Earth.

Follow the Money Trail - It's "NOT"  ISOL or Al-Qaeda or any extremest Religious Faction.

I'm rather syntactical and have had too much to drink but I say "Let them eat cake" off with their heads and it's time to storm the Bastille but then I'm just a Hobbit seeking Peace and Harmony and an End to WAR.

The term "Extremist" is just a tool for a select WEALTHY few playing Monopoly with no regards for Humanity or our Earth.

Co-operations need to breed Extremists or their Monetary System will collapse.

Why must we feed of one another?

Believe me, due to Home Land Monitoring, I think twice before publishing On Line.

Granted we're just a bunch of Breganze Riders that know our machines can kill us because they are just Fucking Fast. and handle like Pigs - LOL.

What the Hell do we care what they think as a Breganze is our Escape..

We're a Sick Lot.
 
DoC! said:
I have come to the conclusion I would never make a good Muslim.
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Nor would I.
I like to nuture my children, watch them grow into young adults ready to takle the world.
The problem with muslim kids these days, is they blow-up so quickly.  (bang)
 
Interesting article re tweets about the world leaders at the Paris rally.

http://www.watoday.com.au/world/daniel-wickhams-epic-twitter-attack-on-world-leaders-at-paris-march-20150113-12myjf.html
 
?Perpetual War for Perpetual Peace?

Too much money to be made by greedy arms dealers and all those weapons manufacturers.

The US just passed a bill approving the usual massive military spending. The amount is US$577.1 billion for fiscal year 2015, to be precise and to be fair, the amount authorized in the bill is actually down from US$625.1 billion for the year 2014.
 
henry said:
the whole philosophy of islam is driven by intimidation and fear and wherever you find it it was brought by the sword
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well - please let us not forget that christianization of southern America, parts of Africa, india and other regions were not done any different, not to forget the elimination of the jews during the 3rd Reich etc. It is not fair to say one religion is bad and the other one is good. It is the people behind it that make it bad or good I'd say...
 
"It is the people behind it that make it bad or good I'd say..." Agreed. Here's another example of religious tomfoolery:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vt0Y39eMvpI
 
Davo said:
Absolutely.
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Laverdalothar said:
well - please let us not forget that christianization of southern America, parts of Africa, india and other regions were not done any different, not to forget the elimination of the jews during the 3rd Reich etc. It is not fair to say one religion is bad and the other one is good. It is the people behind it that make it bad or good I'd say...
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then you have to ask yourself the questions:

what motivates them
are they following the dictates/guidelines of their faith

lothar, by lumping all this in together you show that you plainly don't know anything about these events or how they were conducted.
south america was introduced to christianity by the catholic church at one of it's worst periods in history (as the reformation swept through europe) mostly under jesuit control - a lot of things were done very wrong, these we hear about, but not all, these we don't hear about.

africa came much later and had a great deal of protestant input. the catholic church seemed rather to slumber which is why islam spread south. there were many dreadful things done by the colonial powers, but i'm not aware of any great violence used by the church per se to bring christianity to the continent. many african countries had their own great preachers, africans, not european at all.

India was first introduced to christianity by one man, thomas the doubter, the very one of the disciples who said he wouldn't believe until he could put his hands into the wounds. it seems he finished up in what is now the state of tamil nadu this is why there were so many christians in s. india especially, when the european explorers finally got there. unfortunately for them, they weren't catholic so the catholic church organised a massacre of them to negate any potential threat. the scriptural support for this was found in 1st imaginations and 2nd and 3rd george. the british and french put a stop to it while they had a little competition to see who would control the place. the british were the winners which is why the anglicans, methodists, plymouth brethren, and many other protestant denominations were so active. as far as i'm aware swords, muskets and cannon were the preserve of the govt. not the church
 
Sorry, for me ALL religion is feeding on man's insecurity in having to believe that there's something after this life instead of oblivion. Too many people have died, are dying, and will die in it's name for it to be of any value. Humanitarian service for me.
 
GPR1200 said:
"It is the people behind it that make it bad or good I'd say..." Agreed. Here's another example of religious tomfoolery:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vt0Y39eMvpI
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this monty python skit is actually not very funny.

the inquisition behaved in exactly the same way as the islamic state does today - catch, convert (use torture if it proves to have a persuasive value) and then kill, albeit without the added fear factor of being able to post it online or even on a castle gate. i don't think these people had ever read their book to be able to do that.
 
Owdbiker said:
Sorry, for me ALL religion is feeding on man's insecurity in having to believe that there's something after this life instead of oblivion. Too many people have died, are dying, and will die in it's name for it to be of any value. Humanitarian service for me.
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'sfunny - i don't feel one bit insecure, quite the opposite in fact, and neither does anyone i know - oblivion, what's that, some new brand of vodka?
 
Owdbiker said:
Sorry, for me ALL religion is feeding on man's insecurity in having to believe that there's something after this life instead of oblivion. Too many people have died, are dying, and will die in it's name for it to be of any value. Humanitarian service for me.
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Aha! Well, there you go y'see, falling into the old theo-philosophical trap set by the monotheistic Abrahamic religions, who cunningly divorce the divine entity from the sociological root of the religion, replacing the vacuum created thereby with the concept of an earthly entity such as a prophet or messianic figure. Now, if you consider that in the context of Durkheim's hypothesis of primitive religion being a simple expression of tribal conformity, then......

........hang on a minute!

........So, erm, shim clearances guys :-D
 
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