Pirelli Phantom SportsComp Tyres

AndyW

AndyW

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On the search for an alternative to BT45s I managed to pick up a new Pirelli Phantom (SportsComp) 100/90-18 for the front and thought I was onto a winner when I found a couple of eBay sites in the US offering a 120/90-18 REAR. GC Motorcycles in Adelaide then claimed to have located one in Brisbane, however, after several weeks of waiting it transpired the tyre doesn't exist in that size and, sure enough, the eBay sites in the USA evaporated similarly. I had a Sport Demon fitted instead: not bad but not quite what I was after.


I've since contacted Pirelli via their website-link to suggest that, should they make a 120/90-18 in the REAR pattern then it will appeal to owners of many 70s/80s Laverdas, Ducatis, Guzzis, Benellis (who?) and of course MV Agustas who will snap them up: In short they should sell like hot cakes.. Today I received a reply from Pirelli indicating they'd passed my request to their marketing dept for due consideration.


So.. if anyone else on here might be interested to have an additional tyre choice to mull over why not send them a quick email to crack on with making a rear tyre for us 70s/80s tragics.. From Pirelli's perspective it's only a matter of making/changing a tread mould to an already existing tyre size so how hard can it be? Reckon 50-60 emails ought to clinch it..


AndyW  (brave)
 
AndyW said:
On the search for an alternative to BT45s I managed to pick up a new Pirelli Phantom (SportsComp) 100/90-18 for the front and thought I was onto a winner when I found a couple of eBay sites in the US offering a 120/90-18 REAR. GC Motorcycles in Adelaide then claimed to have located one in Brisbane, however, after several weeks of waiting it transpired the tyre doesn't exist in that size and, sure enough, the eBay sites in the USA evaporated similarly. I had a Sport Demon fitted instead: not bad but not quite what I was after.


I've since contacted Pirelli via their website-link to suggest that, should they make a 120/90-18 in the REAR pattern then it will appeal to owners of many 70s/80s Laverdas, Ducatis, Guzzis, Benellis (who?) and of course MV Agustas who will snap them up: In short they should sell like hot cakes.. Today I received a reply from Pirelli indicating they'd passed my request to their marketing dept for due consideration.


So.. if anyone else on here might be interested to have an additional tyre choice to mull over why not send them a quick email to crack on with making a rear tyre for us 70s/80s tragics.. From Pirelli's perspective it's only a matter of making/changing a tread mould to an already existing tyre size so how hard can it be? Reckon 50-60 emails ought to clinch it..


AndyW  (brave)
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Can I assume that the quest for the Phantom is all about the looks? (like some fit k81's these days ffs :P)

(Haven't seen anything to suggest that the modern Phantom is better than the readily available Sport Demon - but of course could be wrong)
 
AndyW said:
.. if anyone else on here might be interested to have an additional tyre choice to mull over why not send them a quick email to crack on with making a rear tyre for us 70s/80s tragics..
AndyW 
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jL2DH-nKBeA&feature=youtu.be
 
I love the Sport Demons I have on the Le Mans III. Handle great wet or dry. Feel very stable fully leant over.
 
I thought the only 18" size in current production to rear is 130/70-18".
That's interesting if 120/90-18" would be available.
https://www.pirelli.com/tyres/en-ww/motorcycle/all-tyres/sheet/phantom-sportscomp#/size-range

I have used Sport Demons, but I don't like these new ones made in Brazil. The rubber feels more slippery. I have thinked to try next these new Phantoms or Continental Road Attack 3 (radial tyres). Some people also prefer Michelin Pilot Activ. Have someone compared these on Lav? What kind of differencies they had?
 
A mate of mine bought a new Paul Smart replica or 900 SS sequel, that bike was the worst handlind with the most evil weave.
We swapped bikes one day as he was shitting himself and I nearly lost it in a fast corner, the bike got a new set of Mitchelin P series tyres and the bike was transformed.
My mate went back to the dealer and was told those tyres are only fitted for the retro look!!! :o :o :o :o :o
 
Surely Pirelli just moulded the Phantom tread pattern onto the carcase of an existing production tyre to appeal to a certain segment of the motorcycling community*.

? All hipsters must hang ;)
 
mauricejota7604 said:
My mate went back to the dealer and was told those tyres are only fitted for the retro look!!! :o :o :o :o :o
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Are you talking about the new Phantoms Maurice? ??? ???  The one I have on the front of the Mirage is a whopping improvement over an only part worn BT45. Can't fault the Sports Demon on the back either...
 
AndyW said:
Are you talking about the new Phantoms Maurice? ??? ???  The one I have on the front of the Mirage is a whopping improvement over an only part worn BT45. Can't fault the Sports Demon on the back either...
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Andy, I was trying to be kind before. Had heard before the Ducarty boys thought the Phantoms absolute crap (they were fitted to those retro models)

As I said - why would you want them if they aint better..................
 
The original Perrili Rayon Belted Super Comps where great for there time back in the 70's and available in sizes for narrow width 18" Barroni rims - But no More

I do like the Perilli Steel Belted Radial Sport Demond on the front but size available for the narrow 18" rear is not available unless you temp a 130 an then it's dangerous to roll over the bike. Better of with with a Bias Ply BT on the rear - That's my experience.

These tires are not cheap.

One thing I noted about the Pirelli Sport Demond is that it CRACKS between the Pads after a season - Perhaps it was never designed to put a 2.75" width 18" Borrani rim with a tube?

Excuse my spelling and dismiss why I would mix Radials with Bias ply tires. - As long as it keeps me up ;o)

From what I see the Perilli Steel belted radial Sport Demond is missing the 120x18 for the rear to match a 110x18 on the front - The Rayon Belted Radial Super Sport Phantom no longer exists.
 
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