Potholes and the Ejecta From Them

Our roads are absolutely munted. I got caught out by a fresh pothole last week while weaving around the existing potholes. Instant deflation of the tubeless tyre. I have put a set of higher profile tyres and rims on until the road conditions improve.
You guys get the prize for munted roads AJ, those higher profile wheels might be on the car for a while!
Actually I did similar damage to my car a few years ago. After getting it straightened and a new tyre my daughter did it again. So I got some standard wheels very cheap off trademe. The ride improved so much I’ve still got 3 good mags with good tyres and a bent one in the shed…
 
Our roads are fucked. Just fucked

Anyone wishing to make a quick buck should make “Rough Surface” signs.

I noticed a lot of Rough Surface signs were replaced with Flood Damaged Road.

My theory is that the local government got funding for flood damaged roads before normal wear and tear.

Meanwhile, “Drive to conditions” signs abound, these legally cover councils from law suits from damage to vehicles and personal injury caused by such fucked roads, that they spent the road funding on on other things, like perfume sprayed into rubbish bins upon collection etc.

Mind you, this week I drove down Hwy 1 from Brisbane to Albury (say 1200klm), smoother than a babies bum. And fuck me pink…. soap and toilet paper (and running water, over no water at all) in rest area toilets!
 

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I mentioned the joys of pothole life in Staffordshire...

If we were French there would be twice as many people, flocking to Westminster, than there were last weekend when a previously unemployed seventy-four year old put on a metal hat and sat in a chair.
How the **ck can you "lock on" to a road surface that is, conspicuously, not attached to the road?
 
If we were French there would be twice as many people, flocking to Westminster, than there were last weekend when a previously unemployed seventy-four year old put on a metal hat and sat in a chair.
How the **ck can you "lock on" to a road surface that is, conspicuously, not attached to the road?
Beware puddles, you dont know how deep the hole is avoid or be v careful about night riding..oh, and buy a Husqvarna 701 sm the suspension soaks it up😉
 
If we were French there would be twice as many people, flocking to Westminster, than there were last weekend when a previously unemployed seventy-four year old put on a metal hat and sat in a chair.
How the **ck can you "lock on" to a road surface that is, conspicuously, not attached to the road?
If you were French, there would be plenty of people flocking to parliament to complain, parliament would say "ok, we'll hike taxes to repair the roads" then people would flock to parliament to protest against taxes.
You can please some of the people......

Paul
 
"Beware puddles, you dont know how deep the hole is avoid or be v careful about night riding..oh, and buy a Husqvarna 701 sm the suspension soaks it up"
No, everyone needs an Atlas. :)
 
Beware puddles, you dont know how deep the hole is avoid or be v careful about night riding..oh, and buy a Husqvarna 701 sm the suspension soaks it up😉
How would the Husky cope with these, Nick?
Entry to the 'Chinese Garage' roundabout, from Wickham Way, a very affluent area.

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On the apex of the roundabout:

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I once heard a South African guy say” you can tell the state of a country by the state of the roads”…
Apparently Switzerland has very good roads.
In Somerset / Devon we wait until holiday season then close the roads whilst the surface is covered in about two inches of tar then the whole lot is treated to three inches of gravel giving a surface like a thirties speedway track.This is then reopened with signs saying “20 mph slippery as fuck” then once the loose clinker has built up to berm proportion on the corners- they sweep it all up! By now most local vehicles are spattered in tar and have dents or chipped windscreens. Then the Council send a lorry out to unblock the tar/ stone filled drains and find the manhole covers that have disappeared.
 
As I understand it the British Motorcycle Action Group MAG are gathering evidence of increasing motorcycle crashes caused by pot holes that blight our highways. Anyone that has suffered as a consequence of a pot hole and crashed as a result is invited to inform them and if willing be interviewed on camera. Contact Colin on cbrown@mag-uk.org. This info comes from another motorcycle related forum.

I'm now back at work in Germany, but a few weeks ago I spent time in the UK.
I came into the UK via the train, the roads are not a great first experience of the UK to visiting foreigners.
The story gets worse, traveling through Kent, I was shocked how bad the roads have become.

Last time I was there was in July last year.

It's not just the pot holes, it's the stone wash, I nearly came to grief when hitting one cluster on approaching a junction.

From Kent to Hampshire was no better, my travels then took me over to Pembrokeshire.
Off the motorways I felt the roads were better in Wales.
Back in England the road degenerated again.

My ride from Wolverhampton to Kent one evening, was a nightmare of motorway surface water, joining strips and failed repair joints.
By the time I reached journeys end, I was a wreck.
Thankfully the next day's meet was a Zoom meeting. No need to be anywhere on time apart from downstairs in the kitchen with coffee.

Back to Europe and a 780 km day to get back to work.
Tired but in one piece.

The European motorways of France are not exactly billiard board smooth but better than the UK,
once into Belgium, Antwerp is the usual pain but the Netherlands and Germany are so much better.

I've said it before, so I'll write it here, visiting 'broken' Britain whether for work or to see family is really no fun.

A car behind me going through one particular bit of deep water din't make it.
The drains and the ditches appear to be full of silt and plastic litter.
As a visiting Brit. I find my home country depressing.

Over 3000 kilometres in two weeks and I saw only one litter collecting gang.
I was held up at a number of road works but none of them road repairs.
I don't think it's going to get any better very soon.

And on a final note; the South East BBC news blamed the state of the roads on the weather.
Not the councils who don't clear ditches, clear drains or collect litter or fill pot holes.
Not the road menders, makers who appear to do shoddy work.
It's not the fault of those who live with clogged ditches on their property or those who chuck litter out of their cars, its the weather.

Thank f#*k for that I thought it might be human error.
 
You know why they blame it on the weather, it's the new go to for everything. To be fair it has been a very long cold miserable winter with lots of rain then freezing conditions, then rain, then cold etc. The roads have been wrecked and they carry an awful lot of traffic these days too. The money is used for other things with a supposed higher priority.
 
Agree with the Charley above.

I heard (maybe an old-wives tale), that once a UK council draws a pretty paint line around the hole, it gives them a stronger defense advantage in a court of law, as it moves their position from 'outright neglect', to 'work-in-progress'. Some of the holes around here have paint lines going back months...
 
Agree with the Charley above.

I heard (maybe an old-wives tale), that once a UK council draws a pretty paint line around the hole, it gives them a stronger defense advantage in a court of law, as it moves their position from 'outright neglect', to 'work-in-progress'. Some of the holes around here have paint lines going back months...
Telecom do the same with telegraph poles, nail a notice on it and you’re good to go. I was at the harbour and a lady councillor wanted to put some “no fishing beyond this point” signs,” it won’t stop them” I said “ I know, it just covers us..”
 
I drove about 3klm at 40kph to come across 12, yep I counted them, 12 road workers at a hole in the road about 1 metre dia. One bloke was digging out some stones with a shovel. The other 11 were watching.

Add to the 12, 4 safety vehicles at each end of the 6klm stretch of road.

Total: 20 + workers and numerous vehicles for one bloke to dig out stones.

That’s were the money goes
 
I drove about 3klm at 40kph to come across 12, yep I counted them, 12 road workers at a hole in the road about 1 metre dia. One bloke was digging out some stones with a shovel. The other 11 were watching.

Add to the 12, 4 safety vehicles at each end of the 6klm stretch of road.

Total: 20 + workers and numerous vehicles for one bloke to dig out stones.

That’s were the money goes
“Council was asked about the pothole, officials said they were looking into it”
 
I suspect that as far as potholes go Christchurch NZ is no better than the rest of NZ. Which has road maintenance done by the lowest tenderer. With the expected outcomes. But we've still got roads with heaves and drops in them from the bloody earthquakes. All very well for the surface to be reasonable but with heaves up to a foot high (300mm for the metricated) and matching subsidence drops my route into town from a seaside suburb can on occasion feel more like a short choppy sea voyage.
In this part of the South Island we always used to pride ourselves on our good roads. Dig a hole anywhere on the Canterbury plains and you hit gravel which is a very good road making material. We do still have some very good roads - particularly those rebuilt post quakes - but the standard of in-city streets is abysmal.
 
Talking to different people about building roads in the North Island vs South Island roads is quite interesting. Here follows a massive generalisation: The NI is made from a big lump of clay and softer types of volcanic rock. The clay subgrade requires exceptional drainage otherwise it softens and the thin layer of poor quality metal collapses. The SI is made entirely from an enormous pile of gravel, which makes good hard roading metal. Drainage is great, but water migrating through the ground in floods can remove fines which loosens the subgrade, and then the hardtop collapses.
Different geology, same results.
 
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