Re: What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?

Yogi said:


There you go then - a bit of blue and some orange in the background.  The SF1 came with the orange originally when I bought it, but I wanted a change.  The blue is a very recent General Motors Holden (GMH) colour in Australia, probably used in the US as well - Voodoo Blue Mica in DuPont Centari 6000.

Yogi

Thanks for that--beautiful bike!----Locally, found Lotus Elise MK2 and 2006 H/D Cobalt Blue seem to be spot-on. Have a good-un.
 
markQLD said:
ay Levo, i suggest this may well be considered 'pushing your luck' ??  no ??  ???
Levos%20crank.jpg

in engineering terms, i would call your crank spline wear as being 'significant' !!  :o

yea, i'll get to your Dell'Orto's next week.  reckon they should also be well & truly rooted too ay?
  Mark

:o Reckon he's had his monies worth out of that!
"Transmission lash?"
"Nah, That's turbo lag!" :D
 
Yogi said:


There you go then - a bit of blue and some orange in the background.  The SF1 came with the orange originally when I bought it, but I wanted a change.  The blue is a very recent General Motors Holden (GMH) colour in Australia, probably used in the US as well - Voodoo Blue Mica in DuPont Centari 6000.

Yogi
Great colour, was looking for ideas for my spare tank / sidepanels :-)
 
Paul Marx said:
Where did your headers come from Yogi?

Paul

Hi Paul,

Headers came with the bike when I bought it out of the UK.  I'd suggest they were UK sourced by previous owner, so some of our UK members might have a better idea.  No connector underneath...

Yogi
 
markQLD said:
ay Levo, i suggest this may well be considered 'pushing your luck' ??  no ??  ???
Levos%20crank.jpg

in engineering terms, i would call your crank spline wear as being 'significant' !!  :o

Nothing a few grub screws won't sort out oh and a few self tappers to hold the seal in!
hear that the biggest problem is going to be be for the QLD guys to come up with a new name as once it has left the shed it wI'll be oil tight so the Exxon Valdez name will have to go!!
One for mr tree fern to ponder about I guess!!!
 
drikko said:
JB should fix it...
Jim Bean huh! well I prefer a good single malt which usually fixes everything or after a few glasses every problem appears fixed.
However in the Camira bottle o the only whiskey in the hole joint was Jamisons so settled for that. Sorry Levo didn't fix your splines but sure as hell fixed the headache
 
Brett said:
Jim Bean huh! well I prefer a good single malt which usually fixes everything or after a few glasses every problem appears fixed.
However in the Camira bottle o the only whiskey in the hole joint was Jamisons so settled for that. Sorry Levo didn't fix your splines but sure as hell fixed the headache

Laphroig is on special at Dan Murphy's with free home delivery  :D 8)
 
Yogi said:
Hi Paul,

Headers came with the bike when I bought it out of the UK.  I'd suggest they were UK sourced by previous owner, so some of our UK members might have a better idea.  No connector underneath...

Yogi


Thanks,
Armours they are then.
Will be ordering some in a couiple of weeks when cash restrictions are lifted!

Cheers
Paul
 
Paul Marx said:
Thanks,
Armours they are then.
Will be ordering some in a couiple of weeks when cash restrictions are lifted!

Cheers
Paul
Any idea how omitting the balance pipe effects the bike running? I have had conflicting reports from people with a lot more knowledge of the twins than I have. Specifically I am asking about an apparent loss of midrange. I was going to start a new thread but seeing as some of you lads have fitted or are fitting pipes I thought I would ask here. Thanks  :D
 
Eh boys the grub screws were a pretty good solution seeing as that they were put in something like 200,000 ks ago....... & never came loose. So let me see that's 200,000 extra ks I got for a very small cost to do the job  & heaps of enjoyment. So say what you like cause  I don't give a fuck it worked for me so you know what you all can do!!!
 
tyelav13 said:
Any idea how omitting the balance pipe effects the bike running? I have had conflicting reports from people with a lot more knowledge of the twins than I have. Specifically I am asking about an apparent loss of midrange. I was going to start a new thread but seeing as some of you lads have fitted or are fitting pipes I thought I would ask here. Thanks  :D

I'll let you know in a few weeks if no answers come up. The subject has been evoqued and I think that it didn't affect running in any significant way.
Paul
 
tyelav13 said:
Any idea how omitting the balance pipe effects the bike running? I have had conflicting reports from people with a lot more knowledge of the twins than I have. Specifically I am asking about an apparent loss of midrange. I was going to start a new thread but seeing as some of you lads have fitted or are fitting pipes I thought I would ask here. Thanks  :D

With the BSA/Triumph (and Nortons too I expect) twins the balance pipe gave more midrange torque and allowed the use of smaller diameter (ie cheaper) headers. Introduced around 1970 or '71 with the Oil in Frame models, I think it gave better fuel economy too. It must have worked as they never went back to the old separate header/silencer system.
 
AndyW said:
With the BSA/Triumph (and Nortons too I expect) twins the balance pipe gave more midrange torque and allowed the use of smaller diameter (ie cheaper) headers. Introduced around 1970 or '71 with the Oil in Frame models, I think it gave better fuel economy too. It must have worked as they never went back to the old separate header/silencer system.
Thanks Andy
 
Experience I had with one of my 750 mates;

Fitted the straight-through pipes, marveled at how sleek the bike looked, awesome sounds.  Noise drowned out just about everything else, engine seemed a lot stronger... headers loosened, tightened, repeated about 2 dozen times with numerous replacement header gaskets installed.  Welded cracked header, replaced header gaskets... about a dozen times.  Fast forward a couple of years, the headers looked quite shitty, but there was a bike event coming up, so original system was re-fitted, looked a bit better, despite the rust it had gathered in the meantime, hanging from the rafters in the shed.  Visited the bike event, asking himself all the way "WTF did I bother with those pipes in the first place?"  Total time span about 4 years.  Eddy hardly recognised his engine with the OE system re-fitted, smooth, civilised with loads more grunt.  No more hassles with loose headers either...

The original silencer(it is actually more than just a balance tube) is a rather clever design, very low restriction and allows each cylinder to breathe into both silencers, enhancing low- and mid-range torque.  About the only drawbacks might be limited cornering clearance, along with a bit of hassle when the silencer needs to be removed during servicing.  I have managed to ground the silencer of my GTL only twice in the past 20 years, and don't feel limited while cornering at all(including chasing and overtaking GS Beemers down the Grossglockner :D  Not enough steam to keep up with them uphill...).  Don't consider the bike being not loud enough either, by todays' standards at least.  It's a rorty, but civilised beast.

The exhaust system relies on a support mid-way along its length, otherwise it will self-destruct.  If the silencer really needs to go, at least fit some sort of support for the headers near the footrests, or fabricate a "H" tube to connect the headers, similar to Guzzi Lemons or Ducati bevels.

piet
 
I tend to agree with Piet about the bike performing better in mid range torque with the balancing silencer.  Piet, with the SF0 and models prior, am I right in thinking that they all had the smaller valve heads and that the balance tube in the headers was replaced with the balancing silencer starting with the SF1 because of the improvement that this gave to the engines overall characteristics?  I guess what I am asking is whether there would also be an improvement in mid range torque if the later silencer was removed and the earlier balance tube in the headers was fitted - thereby removing any grounding issues (that I would not have anyway) without losing the mid range torque and other benefits.

I have a aftermarket balance tube stainless exhaust system on the SF2 that I have - not the bulbous type at all, as it is same diameter as headers from memory - see photo below, compared to original balance pipe/silencer (also below).  I might try swapping this  system onto the SF1 to see if I can notice any difference between the two.  I think I also have one of the original bulbous underslung silencers as well, but whether this needs different length headers or silencers again to what I have I don't know.  The headers on a system without the balance pipe/silencer are longer than those on a system with the balance pipe/silencer, and so are not interchangeable.  You use one or the other length depending on whether you are running the balance pipe/silencer or not.








I agree that if running two separate (unconnected) pipes, then an additional mount to support the headers would be a good idea - I have had the SF1 headers come loose a couple of times and it just looks wrong to me to have so much unsupported length.

Yogi
 
Well I checked the the 67 Dodge Cub Van that houses my 750SF and my Buddies 81 Harley FXWG and it's all in one piece in spite of a 2 Meter Snow Bank. Granted we dost our bikes with Rust Check but I wanted a Bail of Hay in the Cub to absorb the Frost and Humidity.
 
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