Replacement shocks for the project Formula Mirage IKON or YSS

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rogerd

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I am looking at the options available and have come down to either the Ikon 7164 alloy bodied gas shocks or the RZ362 form YSS. They both retain the look of the originals ie no remote reservoir, but better quality and there is not a lot of difference in price.

I see from previous posts some members have had problems with more modern shocks with threaded adjusters fouling the chainguard.

Has any one had any problems with the above models.

I see the the YSS comes in 350 or 360 mm length where the originals are 352mm  Any opinions?
 
I don't know about the Ikons, can't comment. The YSS are length adjustable (350 => 359mm, 360 - 369mm), so if you like some better handling, take the 360mm and even extend them if you feel it goes into the right direction. If you want to be on the safe side, take the 350 and extend them to - say - 355mm.

My YSS work great on the Jota, even on Race-track (where I am not the fastest, but am giving the shocks quite a hard time due to my weight...).
 
Rogered, Just fitted Gazi shocks to the Jota, spring did foul c/guard but the rubber mallet
fixed that.

Second Lothar on the 360mm length, Gazis $600 aud ,good quality.

Anyway you go you cant go wrong , new gotta be better than a clapped out pair.

Hooksey.
 
Go as long as you can and still get the centrestand to work,your never going to make them unstable,just less work in the corners.I made a piggy back mount that extended the shock 25mm as an experiment,it did get a bit lively then so anything around 15mm is very helpful
 
I've got a Ikon on the beemer at the moment, the windy windy spring pre-load drives me insane, it's a real pain to adjust so I just don't bother. I am also unimpressed with the damping, it was good at first, but even set up to the second highest setting it has started pogoing again after only 8000k's. Next shock for it will be a YSS with the remote spring pre-load option fitted! If I can't get the simple 5 position pre-load then it has to be a remote one.

Will see what the shocks are like on the RGS when it gets here before making a decision on it.

 
Right from new my Icon needed to be on setting 3 or it would wollow,so I dont think its wear and tear.I weigh a bit 130kg,had them rebuilt with 10 wt oil and they had a fiddle with the shims and now there good on setting 1.So I well see how long they last.
 
That's interesting Vince. I think I talked myself into it getting worse, but have to admit was never really happy with it.

I'm no lightweight either at 105kgs.....should be 80 though.
 
Hi Drikko,

are we talking about the Ikon with the alloy body or the standard ones that are basically reproductions of the Koni? I thought I read that the alloy type are way better and roughly comparable to the YSS. I do wonder because you say preload position 3 etc., as the alloy type ones that I think Roger was talking about may have a threaded pre-load adjuster - no? see: http://www.ikonsuspension.com/content/7614.shtml

As said, I have absolutely no experience with Gazy or Ikon, I only have Wilbers, YSS and Koni as well as AG Strada and the Oro ones that were mounted in the 1000SFC. Out of these, the Wilbers and the YSS are clearly the best while the YSS do offer a bit more adjustability for less price with - according to my personal subjective feeling - the same damping comfort and road-holding.
 
For a similar price you could get a pair of rear shocks made specifically for your bike weight and riding style by Maxton Suspension they are  specialists check out their site www.maxtonsuspension.co.uk

Regards
Tetley
 
Laverdalothar said:
Hi Drikko,

are we talking about the Ikon with the alloy body or the standard ones that are basically reproductions of the Koni? I thought I read that the alloy type are way better and roughly comparable to the YSS. I do wonder because you say preload position 3 etc., as the alloy type ones that I think Roger was talking about may have a threaded pre-load adjuster - no? see: http://www.ikonsuspension.com/content/7614.shtml

As said, I have absolutely no experience with Gazy or Ikon, I only have Wilbers, YSS and Koni as well as AG Strada and the Oro ones that were mounted in the 1000SFC. Out of these, the Wilbers and the YSS are clearly the best while the YSS do offer a bit more adjustability for less price with - according to my personal subjective feeling - the same damping comfort and road-holding.
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Don't know about the 7614 but I have had no luck with the 7610s...
 
I do like the YSS website where you can shop for "Shocks for Motor Bikes" or "Shocks for Harleys".

I always did wonder...
 
Thanks for the information - with the facility to adjust the length it looks like the Yss is the way to go I'll probably stick to 350mm with the adjustability up to 360 as the bike is pretty tall as it is with the Formula Mirage bodywork. If I find the steering needs to be quicker I will have the option to lower the front a tad.
 
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