Scorch Cycles, Cape Town, South Africa

chrisk said:
Cripes, the swing-arm pivot looks awful low. Could be the angle of the pictures though.
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Could look low because none of the other stuff that hangs lower than the engine is fitted yet - exhaust, centre stand. And there are no frame tubes under the engine either.
 
Having seen the Scorch frame first hand, I can confirm the design and workmanship is absolutely fantastic.
It is also ridiculously easy to fit the engine to it.

Great stuff!

Steve
 
Been involved with fitting engines into the std Space Frame a few times. Seen it done really easy and seen it done painfully slowly, it just depends  on
getting the wiggle just right. Having it easy to work on , take the topend off
with the engine still in the frame,carby access etc  I bet were priority's for Red.
 
took a deposit on the last Spaceframe last night so all 3 are now sold/reserved
just need to start building them now


 
I remember drooling over the motosplat kits in Avon Bikes showroom in Bristol back in the early 80's but the nearest I got to owning one was a 350 with a body kit and 2-into-1 exhaust that made it look like a Mk2 Monty. It didn't quite go like a Monty but it sure made a hell of a noise.
The frames from Scorth certainly look a worthy modern day successor and I am pretty envious of whoever has ordered these frames!
Andy
 
will post any Spaceframe updates back into this thread
Paul spent last 2 days in the workshop and thus we started to assemble the Spaceframes
current plan is to get the 3 bikes to a rolling chassis stage complete with dummy engines so we can continue the build at leisure
main problem from what I can see is going to be the bodywork which Paul, Bruce and Matt are going to build  :D

last two days, dummy fitted a Ducati triple clamp set up to check on length, steering lock, bearing sizes etc
prepared a set of Zane wheels we had laying around, changed out bearings to suit different axle diameters
loaded a mainshaft into the dummy engine so we could install a front sprocket
installed rear wheel, is a 5" x 17" rim, plan is to run 160 x either 60 or 70 aspect slicks on the rear, 120 x 60 on the front

then drank beer and designed a modified cush drive for the Zane rear wheel so we can get drive chain alignment with the front sprocket
is going to have to be a 520 set up
looking good for 2 days work during which we locked in a couple of important decisions, now waiting on the forks to arrive from Europe, should be here next week

beer time Thursday


beer time Friday





 
Except the monoshock rising rate rear end and swingarm.
Just wondered if a more modern steering head angle was incorporated as I recall Crispin mentioning the steering head angle was not great on his one on the racetrack.
Also, larger diameter tubing?
Thinner wall?
 
Grant said:
Except the monoshock rising rate rear end and swingarm.
Just wondered if a more modern steering head angle was incorporated as I recall Crispin mentioning the steering head angle was not great on his one on the racetrack.
Also, larger diameter tubing?
Thinner wall?
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frame tube is thinner wall and also larger diameter, headstock is different angle and longer in length overall
apart from a loose similarity between a Laverda Spaceframe and this Scorch Spaceframe, they are in effect totally different
motor on this one just slips into place for a start, has to be a bonus
am really impressed with the quality of Herman's workmanship



 
He is an artist in metalwork.
Is it going to be a race bike or on the road?
Either way it will handle a dream.
 
Grant said:
He is an artist in metalwork.
Is it going to be a race bike or on the road?
Either way it will handle a dream.
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2 x race bikes, 1 x street bike, we have 3 all told and am building all 3 together



 
Now THAT is going to be one big time fun project, Red! What a sensational foundation for some fantastic triple action. I gather Hermann has lowered the steering head tube to accommodate a much shorter fork (= stiffer)? Have often contemplated a space frame for a twin, but have managed with the stock water pipe setup so far - and they need the heavyweight tubing to overcome the vibes ... unless of course the 270 deg allows significant weight reduction.

Good luck with the project bikes!! Looking forward to the updates.

Quentin
 
A couple of us did a rough trail dimension on Crispin's space frame at Eastern Creek when it was racing, I seem to remember it came out somewhere well less than 90mm,pretty close to modern GP 250 steering.Really surprised all there.
 
Piranha Brother 2 said:
Quentin, man, you're on some good shit .......  ;)
Unless the crank is lightened during the rephrase, I got a funny feeling everything is going to weigh the same, no matter what the final degree.

How's you're mods going?
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[Quentin, man, you're on some good shit .......  ;)
Unless the crank is lightened during the rephrase, I got a funny feeling everything is going to weigh the same, no matter what the final degree.]
Quote by chrisk!

I think Quentin means you could lighten up the frame once you go down the 270 road.
Cheers
BK
 
Yep, that's exactly what I mean. If the motor is smoother I'd consider a lighter frame - not before though! My 270 with 50% factor is nowhere near good enough for that. Hoping that going with 60 or 65% will make a big improvement.

Chris, project is moving slowly, although I'm doing plenty on it! Waiting for 900 pistons to come back (yes, visit Mk2  :-\) from the US, small-valve head project having some prelim milling work before I start porting (hours if fun), ditto the cases. Once I have a few things back home they'll be off to Red's Shed for some more love, bore the OS sleeves and the like.

Today I drilled 'escape' holes in a starter clutch brother Tippie gave me, so I can fit a drift and remove stuck pins ... tricky job with the angles of the starter peg holes, but came up well.

I'm also building a bike #2 with all the stuff I've accumulated over the decades. They'll both be very nice beasts, though cosmetics may have to come later - or I'll never get a leg over them!

Was wondering if your 2/1 might be a bit too outboard and drag on the left handers. My factory 2/1 mount was a tad wide and the rear cone used to drag until I remedied it. Might be a trick of the light with yours ...?

QF
 
Piranha Brother 2 said:
Was wondering if your 2/1 might be a bit too outboard and drag on the left handers. My factory 2/1 mount was a tad wide and the rear cone used to drag until I remedied it. Might be a trick of the light with yours ...?

QF
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I'm a tad concerned about that too. And, as L/Handers are my prefered side, I reckon we'll find out  :o
 
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